Recessive white gene in my bbs silkie pen? Pics of chicks!

[silkieluver_07]

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No no, don't use them to develop a line of whites. I would cull or pet them out.

Can you send me pics the dark beaked 'white' chicks you are talking about (unless they are in post 1 and I missed them). You still can hatch out splash chicks and splash chicks can be very light based and take several weeks to feather in. But there is a big difference between those and the grayish/white chicks you also are hatching.

~ Nikki

Yes, I can send you closeup pictures as soon as I get home.

I'm hoping to cure this problem with a new splash/blue roo that is pure with no white genes in their background. The splash boys I'm using now one will be used for showmanship and the other will be sold at auction next Wednesday.

 

[silkieluver_07]

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I can see how most silkies could possibly carry white genes in their pedigree. I'm going to grow these out and see how they turn out.

I wonder what kind of offspring they would produce? This should be fun!

 

[Majestic Lane Poultry]

I am glad both Nikki and Suze have given you the basic imput as well and basically it goes back to our pm's last night.

I love you enthusiasm but

girl! Ask yourself if you have room for another project. You show and you breed so I know deep down you always want to improve your stock. Just be careful not to have too many things going at once is my advice. Here are some things to consider:

Where are you going to put your buffs?
Are you going to continue with your partridge line?
I know you are selling one of you bbs boys but you need to decide what you are going to do with the other boy? If you keep him in where he is now...you are going to continue where you are and I know you want improvements not roadblocks.

If you take part or your problem away (moving mr. roadblock to a for your projects means a new pen, etc. Knowing you are serious with your showing, wow, you will have your hands full!

I am on overload at my place and don't want you to be in the same predicament I am in across the river

 

[silkieluver_07]

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Very true, Tammy. I have some friends that would gladly grow some of these white birds out for me and I'm sure that they would continue the project.

My bbs silkies that were entered in the fair last week are in the quarantine pen. Once that pen is free, my buff silkies will be going into that pen. My bbs pen is going to be divided in half and the partridges hopefully will go in the other half. My Mr. Roadblock roo will be put into the freeranging flock and we have extra room for him.

And shhhh.... but I'm going to try and convince my dad to build me another pen for those partridges.... that way I don't have to divide my bbs pen

 

[Majestic Lane Poultry]

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Yep you've the same disease I suffer from. I hear the only cure is to keep building pens!

 

[Krys109uk]

Hat Trick Silkies...I'm sorry I must disagree.
Your post is not entirely logical.
The gene in question is recessive white. It is the obvious & predictable result from the many people who breed their nice white silkies will manner of other colours.

I agree with Suze of Sonoran Silkies. I cannot see how a recessive white gene showing up could necessarily mean that the bird will have a red comb. Why would it?

White silkies bred from white parents are usually recessive white & the recessive white gene showing up from non white parents is exactly the same gene. If recessive white does not affect comb colour in white silkies bred from white parents, why would it affect comb colour when it has been inherited from two non white parents? Presumably the other genes would be much the same.

Is the dark comb, like the dark skin, caused by the gene fibromelanosis?

The silver gene is a gene from another locus entirely & inherited quite independently. The gene silver when in a white bird has been shown to give a brighter white plumage.

There is no particular reason why a recessive white bird with silver would have a grey tail.

 

[HatTrickSilkies]

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[Thomas423]

Here's the pics of the whites from silkieluver_07 at 10 weeks old.

The female.....??

The male.....??

Ok, I'm really confused now. These two are useless to breed as whites???
The males waddles and crown are on the red side. But not bright red (yet).
What would happen if I bred them with blues or blacks??

 

[HatTrickSilkies]

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The face will continue to redden. Note the pale beaks as well. In my opinion, I would not use these birds for breeding at all, with any color.

~ Nikki

 

[Majestic Lane Poultry]

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Why?? Is my question. Keep the best and cull the rest. That does not mean kill. If you love them, keep them as pets. Just MHO. I breed up all he time trying o improve he quality of my bbs stock. One of those birds in my program would cause me to lose a season or two. Just so you know what you are getting yourself in to and let all your buyers know their background...