Republican Debate?

[AquaEyes]

Ridgerunner, thank you for educating me on the Parliamentary system. I was not well-versed in its workings, but I understand it better now. And I agree with just about everything else you said in your post.

 

[Fowl_Odor002]

My chickens like RON PAUL

who am i to disagree

 

[Amigo]

I was actually wondering what AE thought, I myself already know what the whole Progressive movement is about, and who started it.

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Actually, the progressive movement was started by Theodore Roosevelt. And it wasn't anything to do with the womens right to vote.

 

[AquaEyes]

I was thinking merely in the adjectival sense -- as in, progressive means characterizing someone as encouraging progress. I wasn't thinking of the actual movement. I suppose I should have paid attention to the fact that it was capitalized, but at the time, I was being naughty and typing during my archaeology class....

ETA -- I looked back and it wasn't capitalized, so I guess that gives me a little bit of an excuse.

another ETA -- I read through some of the history of the movement, and the distinction from economic liberalism, and I have to say that I agree with some of the tenets I've read so far. The movement was necessary to correct the conditions at the time of its inception.

In my opinion, there is no ideal pure system or ideology that will work in government -- it must be a mix of systems and ideologies that keeps getting stirred, with proportions varying according to the times. In a pure, unchanging system or ideology, there will always be those who figure out a way to get through the loopholes and take advantage of others, much like a parasite keeps trying to infect its host species. By keeping a heterogeneous mixed system in place, and varying the proportions of its component parts over time, the society can respond to new sources of "infection" as they arise, and mix up the best form of resistance.

This is why it is important to keep a society free-thinking, with lots of philosophies. We need as much of a resource-bank of ideas as possible to solve future problems. Times change, and the way we deal with that must change as well.

 

[Amigo]

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I polled my chickens yesterday, but I haven't gotten all the votes, here's what I have so far:

Cain 6
Bachmann 6
Perry 4
Paul 4
Others have 3, 2, and 1

 

[Amigo]

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I see!

 

[Royd]

Let's be honest about the word, "Progressive". Liberal has become somewhat of a dirty word, insinuating lack of moral character, due to the trashing religion and patriotic symbolism. They decided that progressive is a much more agressive, moving forward type word.

It's sort of like Nancy Pelosi demanding that her party can no longer use the word "Stimulus" because it was becoming a hot button dirty word, which designates a continual failure of a not so well thought out policy

Ironically, it seems to be the "Progressives" who own the Word Police.

 

[AquaEyes]

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Liberals don't trash religion -- they trash the idea that religion is untouchable, not to be criticized, and free to do whatever it wants to whomever it wants. If your religion paints your view of the world, it is as much available for criticism as your politics would be, in my opinion. If you think that there are some things that are not allowed to be criticized, then you aren't understanding the concept of a free society.

 

[Amigo]

They came up with the word "Progressives", to make the public think that they were moving forward. Lying, is what they do.

 

[Amigo]

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Liberals don't trash religion -- they trash the idea that religion is untouchable, not to be criticized, and free to do whatever it wants to whomever it wants. If your religion paints your view of the world, it is as much available for criticism as your politics would be, in my opinion. If you think that there are some things that are not allowed to be criticized, then you aren't understanding the concept of a free society.

Do you have something against God?

Anyway, the govt is trying their best to control the churches.