Republican Debate?

[Fowl_Odor002]

anybody seen the Occupy Wall Street Protest?
I hear it is spreading to L.A. and Chicago.

but I'm afraid the revolution will not be televised...

 

[E.M. Silkies]

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It really has come down to control. Did you know Congress is trying to pass a bill that will stop farmers from cutting and selling hay? Yeah, just heard about that one yesterday. I'll be doing some research on that. What are the farmers going to do if they can't sell what their making and what are the other farmer with livestock going to do if there's no hay to be bought? It's all about control. It limits our self sufficiency and that REALLY bothers me.

 

[AquaEyes]

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Again, here is the issue:

First person says region A supports region B financially.

Second person says region B supports region A financially.

This is not something that is subjective -- they can't both be true. How to find out? Crunch numbers.

OK, numbers crunched for each year. Region B contributes $28 billion in tax revenue. Region A contributes $7 billion in tax revenue. Region B receives $17 billion in state funding. Region A receives $12 billion in state funding. Data presented to both people. First person says "I don't care...I still believe region A supports region B financially, despite evidence to the contrary."

Tell me how that relates to changing a person's political beliefs from Democrat to Republican.

AquaEyes - I won't debate (regardlesss of what reports/numbers you throw out) because we are so absolutely different. There are so many numbers from this or that that always contradict one another. I cling to my views just as you cling to yours. I say to each his own. We could go on forever and ever and ever..............

I do find it so annoying when someone thinks that you are totally moronic for siding with this party or that. Not saying that you feel this way AquaEyes, but some do treat others this way. America is changing before our eyes. I, for one, like the fact that Tea Party members are holding elected positions. Sometimes we need to experience a little discomfort in life, so that we realize that maybe something needs to change -- elected officials, Democrat or Republicans, included. The long time politicians are facing that discomfort right now. Remember, the elected Tea Party members did not get where they are by magical happenstance. They were put into office by your family members, co-workers, neighbors, and friends. All this said, I do not proclaim to be a Tea Party supporter. I don't know what my title is, maybe Independent. My views/voting record air on the conservative side, but I like to hear from every candidate.

I agree. I don't criticize people, but ideas are open to debate. Criticizing a person's ideas is not criticizing the person, in my opinion. The ideas are like game-pieces on a chessboard, and the debate the game. The game pieces may be obliterated from the board, but the players are unaffected. At least that's how I feel about debates.

 

[cupman]

I hate when numbers and statistics contradict my flawed way of thinking.

 

[AquaEyes]

E.M. Silkies :

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It really has come down to control. Did you know Congress is trying to pass a bill that will stop farmers from cutting and selling hay? Yeah, just heard about that one yesterday. I'll be doing some research on that. What are the farmers going to do if they can't sell what their making and what are the other farmer with livestock going to do if there's no hay to be bought? It's all about control. It limits our self sufficiency and that REALLY bothers me.​

I think that was discussed somewhere on BYC. I remember reading something about it. And I remember someone posting a link to the actual bill, and how it didn't really apply the way it was being portrayed by those talking about it here. I'd have to go back and search to be sure.

 

[Amigo]

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I know a lot about that! It's a communist movement called the "Days of rage".

There was a guy in the protests that were yelling. "My parents lost their home because of you!". It turns out his parents DO own a home, a home that is worth $500,000! None of the MSM mentioned this, they just called him a "hero".

It was only the Blaze that found out.

 

[AquaEyes]

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I know a lot about that! It's a communist movement called the "Days of rage".

There was a guy in the protests that were yelling. "My parents lost their home because of you!". It turns out his parents DO own a home, a home that is worth $500,000! None of the MSM mentioned this, they just called him a "hero".

It was only the Blaze that found out.

Depending on where you live, a home worth $500,000 may be extravagant or relatively "average." I'm from Long Island. When I was a kid in the late 80's, my family bought a home in Levittown. This was a basic home, no basement, with garage, one bedroom and bathroom on first floor, with two bedrooms on the second floor, all sitting on a 60X100 plot. About 22 years ago, that home cost over $200,000. The same home here in Buffalo 22 years later (today) would be about $80,000.

 

[Amigo]

And your point is?

Edit: His parents are also rich.

 

[FourPawz]

I'm not going further into your quotes other than to say that his comment on religion wasn't an affirmation of atheism, but rather an aversion to organized dogma. If you unite people by common belief and following all the same rules, you are capable of controlling them.

Would you agree that many atheists behave as if their beliefs or lack thereof meet the definition of dogma? I do agree that Seneca had an aversion to how tyrants might use organized religion to their own purposes.​

 

[cupman]

The tea party is a joke and I don't know how anyone could support them. They are openly prejudiced against Muslims, even calling for people to vote against the one Muslim congressmen because Muslims don't belong in Congress. Other high ranking tea party members saying Islam has a false "monkey god." These people are like children. Bullies on a playground. I think you should learn more about the people you support, and if you still support them... I don't even know what to say.

Tea Party shennanigans. A bit disturbing. These people never felt so patriotic in their entire lives.