There's still hope Arookar! I think they will mellow out a bit as they mature. Especially when they start squatting! lol. Also, even my newest batch that was a month old when I bought them, now at 5 months will jump up on the arm of the chair I am sitting on to visit. And when I lock them up at nite I am able to pet them or pick them up. Often, I will get them on my arm like a pet parakeet by putting my forearm under their chest and gently and slowly push till they pick their feet up and climb on. and while on the roosts, I have also started sliding my hand under their feet from behind them to pick them up....works pretty good