Ribh's D'Coopage

[BY Bob]

Moon.
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Walking the catwalk.

 

[BY Bob]

Sunset in America

 

[Aussie-Chookmum]

Was he old enough for Korea? My generation got Vietnam. I hold some very unorthodox views as a consequence. It was a taboo subject between my father & I.

I guess he was but he never went to war. The closest we got was watching "M*A*S*H"

 

[LozzyR]

I'm not sure this is true. I don't believe in *white fragility*. However I know life experiences affect how we see the world. My fathers generation fought 2 wars & that really affected how they saw certain races ~ understandably I think. I remember my neighbour, a much decorated spitfire pilot, coming to me in tears & consternation because his daughter had married a Japanese man & was bringing him home for the first time & he didn't know how to react. His gut instinct was this man was an enemy whose people had done terrible things to ours but he really wanted to be hospitable to the man his daughter had chosen. We talked for a long time about how this was a different generation that should not be held accountable for the sins of their forefathers. I think he ended up doing a great job but it is not terribly helpful imo, to judge without understanding. My dad was a shocker but he flew perfectly healthy, fit young men into PNG & dragged the maimed, crippled, blinded shells of men home again & it deeply traumatised him ~ as it did so many of that generation. There is usually a reason for the way people think as they do & I usually try to understand that reason.

I think ‘white fragility’ is all too real but white people will have varying degrees, from super-fragile to low-to-none, depending on how willing they are to examine their own behaviour, learn and grow from it. I think the more accepting you are, the lower your fragility will be, and you will be able to have a respectful discussion such as this. My dad, under the pretence of enjoying a ‘lively and spirited “debate”’ will beat you over the head with his opinion, get annoyed with you if you don’t agree with him and get personal and nasty if you don’t come around to his way of thinking. My mum hates it when he gets like that and her blood pressure rockets. My son also got upset the last time we locked horns and it played on my mind for weeks.

 

[Ribh]

I think ‘white fragility’ is all too real but white people will have varying degrees, from super-fragile to low-to-none, depending on how willing they are to examine their own behaviour, learn and grow from it. I think the more accepting you are, the lower your fragility will be, and you will be able to have a respectful discussion such as this. My dad, under the pretence of enjoying a ‘lively and spirited “debate”’ will beat you over the head with his opinion, get annoyed with you if you don’t agree with him and get personal and nasty if you don’t come around to his way of thinking. My mum hates it when he gets like that and her blood pressure rockets. My son also got upset the last time we locked horns and it played on my mind for weeks.

Ah well, we will have to agree to disagree on this one. I don't believe in white fragility because I don't believe in white superiority & superiority is the basis for most empires & every ethnicity has had one or two of those. I also happen to think being apologetic for being white, a condition completely out of my hands like my Sri Lankan's Dr being born Sri Lankan, or my Rwandan DIL or my Anglo/ Indian DIL had any choice either, is a false basis for assuming anything. Africans enslaved Europeans for decades before America was colonised. Some of the most racist statements I've ever heard have come from Asians. This is a people problem, not a white problem. To say whites are worse is rather precious. Your dad is simply not a good debater imo. lol There are rules to debating, as I went to great pains to teach my daughters. I hate people being horrid to each other but I don't happen to think one race is worse than another. I simply think some people are more gracious & generous to others, & some people enjoy being jerks to others.

 

[rjohns39]

Good evening folks

 

[Grammy60]

Good evening \morning everyone

So glad Sue is home and doing so well. Best wishes for a full recovery

Thank you so much

Hi Sue

Hello Bob

Sunset in America
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Beautiful

 

[BY Bob]

I felt for her but she was wonderful about it. All the chickens seem to understand they are little people & have been very tolerant ~ especially of the littlest. Not so the cats, who have been terrified & in hiding for 3 days. Oldest GC has an awful habit of screeching suddenly & thundering through the house so we have been talking A LOT about being quiet & gentle around the animals.

Davis was very curious about Eve at first last night. Until he became her singular focus. Now I can't find him.

 

[Ribh]

Sunset in America
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Glorious!

 

[rjohns39]

Good morning folks Have a wonderful day