Ribh's D'Coopage

[WhoDatChick]

Bob, My favorite new phrase is: "Where's your cane?"

That is all too familiar! That’s our new one as well.. for my mom since she broke her hip! And she pays hundreds of dollars a year for Life Alert.. which she refuses to wear

 

[BY Bob]

I have no doubt that the rate of deaths of people tested positive for Covid is being held down. At what price though? If one believes every life should be saved if possible regardless of price as many here do with their chickens then we are at an idealogical point of divergence and we shake hands and talk about something else.
I don't believe the above and to justify 'the price' one would have to take in so many factors, it's an impossible model to base a sensible discussion on. Has for example saving the life of a Covid positive patient killed a person who can't get treatment for their heart condition etc.

Part of the problem I believe is we are being presented with an either or argument when there are other options. Would it for example make more economic sense to pour some of the billions being spent into a better health care system. Perhaps this would save more lives from all ailments if that was your goal.

Obviously I don't believe that the saving of a life supersedes all other considerations. Nature doesn't view life like, I don't view my life like that, and to bring it back to chickens.... I don't manage the chickens like that.
To my mind there is an arrogance in the human belief that we can fix everything. For some of the chickens here I could have extended their life at some cost in both financial and emotional terms. They will still die though. Some things you just can't fix. I'm left with, is it better to give them a quick and painless death (as much as our knowledge and medicine permits) or artificially keep them alive, often in obvious pain and distress because the means are available.

Again from an ideological standpoint I would rather have the option at least to die quickly and painlessly than be kept alive only partially functioning because 'we can'.
Bottom line for me and the chickens....maximum quality of life while we are able to live it.

We are, perhaps surprisingly, aligned on this.

 

[WhoDatChick]

Happy First Day of Spring Everyone!
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Or Autumn for you Northern Hemisphere types.

We had beautiful weather here today and I spent all day in the garden trying to get ahead of the weeds.

There are a few things in bloom already.

Native Indigo (Indigofera australis)
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Our self seeded peach tree (Prunus selfseedicus)
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Heart's Ease (Viola iplantedmyselficus)
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and some early Freesias. (Freesia smellsnicia)
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(all scientific names carefully researched, but only one is correct )​

Soooooo beautiful .... I looove Spring!

 

[RoyalChick]

Happy First Day of Spring Everyone!
​

Or Autumn for you Northern Hemisphere types.

We had beautiful weather here today and I spent all day in the garden trying to get ahead of the weeds.

There are a few things in bloom already.

Native Indigo (Indigofera australis)
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Our self seeded peach tree (Prunus selfseedicus)
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Heart's Ease (Viola iplantedmyselficus)
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and some early Freesias. (Freesia smellsnicia)
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(all scientific names carefully researched, but only one is correct )​

I have a couple of Prunus selfseedicus myself. They are a wonderful species. One is now about 40' tall!

 

[RoyalChick]

Soooooo beautiful .... I looove Spring!

Me too and I realized with our Ozzie friends we can have it twice - so nice seeing the spring flowers just as everything here is beginning to slow down.

 

[BY Bob]

I just love 4 seasons. By fall I am sick of the heat. By winter I am excited for the cold and snow. By spring I'm sick of the cold. By summer I am excited for the heat.

Now that I think about it, perhaps I crave variety in my life?

 

[Ribh]

More chicken time then.

I wish! First I need to shake the bug littlest left behind.

 

[Ribh]

We are getting a little far afield of chickens so one last comment and I'm done. Sorry @Ribh please forgive me.

Shad, this is the problem. Prove that the rate isn't being held down and lives aren't being saved because we have given "trillions to big business, lock sections of your population down. Create massive unemployment and scare everyone into wearing a burka!"

You two are all good. I'm not a scientist so I will leave it to the pair of you to fight it out. It just seems to me the whole world has gone completely mad & I blame the media for a lot of it. I think @ some point we have to decide we're going to live, not live in fear. None of us are vouchsafed tomorrow. There are no guarantees in this life except one: we will all die @ some point. Therefore we should make the most of what time we have. A simple philosophy but having done all we sensibly can, it's time to get on with it.

 

[Ribh]

I love your scientific names. They cracked me up. Well played!

We don't celebrate the start of autumn until the 22nd up here. It happens to be my youngest daughter's birthday. Do you celebrate it on September 1st down under?

The 1st of September is Wattle Day in OZ. http://www.wattleday.asn.au/

 

[rjohns39]

Good morning Jeannie, that's really cute. I've tried hard to stay out of the pandemic discussion, but totally agree with you... It's a media event that's totally mis-reported for sensationalism. I know the answer, but Bob and Shad, where's the US death toll (all causes) compared to the same date in 2019, 2018, and 2017? I'll bet you find the increase in deaths in 2017 to be higher than 2020 and that Covid has had no impact on the overall numbers.

On a happier and non-political note... the teenagers moved to fresh grass today. One of those boys needs to really shine as the other three are going into the freezer.