Right to raise/grow your own food (Vent)

[spencereb]

Rosalind,

As a landlord in an inner city, that basic right referred to by redoak in his original post would not mean that the landlord must provide the people (as renters) with the ability to do such, only that the ability to do such should not be impeded by the government when a purchaser acquires property for his own personal use. The renter should still have the right to purchase his own property elsewhere for those intended uses.

Or something like that.

-Spence

 

[summerwindsfarm]

Control the food..and you control the ppl.

 

[seedcorn]

It's simple, don't like a local area's reg's, don't move there. or change them. It's seems logical if you live in an area that doesn't allow gardens (or anything else for that matter) and that's what you want, you wouldn't appreciate someone coming in doing that what is outlawed.

Not allowing a tomato plant, does seem stupid but if that is what they want (no vegetable plants), then so be it.

 

[FlockEweFarm]

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Dealing with that right now. I own a place that was farming for many, many years, people grew beans,pumpkins and raised cattle and sheep on the land all around us. We still have some barbed wire and posts left from where the old line fences used to stand. All around us now, are a bunch of snobby, wannbe Aspenites,(but cant afforditites) who seem to have nothing better to do with their time than to try and pass new laws that restrict how we can use land that we have owned for over 45 years. It seems like every month or so, I have a nice chat with the code enforcement fella who has been called by a neighbor who is trying to find if there is some way they can force me to not own chickens or goats or dogs. I just tell the code guy to relay the message that if they hate me soo much, they can buy me out, and then they can smooch a certain part of my anatomy as I drive away, and then they can push down the fence and build another mcmansion that they cant afford the mortgage on in a few months.

 

[Buster]

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Dealing with that right now. I own a place that was farming for many, many years, people grew beans,pumpkins and raised cattle and sheep on the land all around us. We still have some barbed wire and posts left from where the old line fences used to stand. All around us now, are a bunch of snobby, wannbe Aspenites,(but cant afforditites) who seem to have nothing better to do with their time than to try and pass new laws that restrict how we can use land that we have owned for over 45 years. It seems like every month or so, I have a nice chat with the code enforcement fella who has been called by a neighbor who is trying to find if there is some way they can force me to not own chickens or goats or dogs. I just tell the code guy to relay the message that if they hate me soo much, they can buy me out, and then they can smooch a certain part of my anatomy as I drive away, and then they can push down the fence and build another mcmansion that they cant afford the mortgage on in a few months.

I have a friend who had building lots go in right in the middle of his ranch due to his cousin selling his part of the family farm. 5 five acre lots were sold and one person took 10 acres. they built their house about 200 feet from my friend's corral and now complain that it smells. :rolleyes

 

[chickenannie]

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Dealing with that right now. I own a place that was farming for many, many years, people grew beans,pumpkins and raised cattle and sheep on the land all around us. We still have some barbed wire and posts left from where the old line fences used to stand. All around us now, are a bunch of snobby, wannbe Aspenites,(but cant afforditites) who seem to have nothing better to do with their time than to try and pass new laws that restrict how we can use land that we have owned for over 45 years. It seems like every month or so, I have a nice chat with the code enforcement fella who has been called by a neighbor who is trying to find if there is some way they can force me to not own chickens or goats or dogs. I just tell the code guy to relay the message that if they hate me soo much, they can buy me out, and then they can smooch a certain part of my anatomy as I drive away, and then they can push down the fence and build another mcmansion that they cant afford the mortgage on in a few months.

I have a friend who had building lots go in right in the middle of his ranch due to his cousin selling his part of the family farm. 5 five acre lots were sold and one person took 10 acres. they built their house about 200 feet from my friend's corral and now complain that it smells. :rolleyes

Wow, I felt like this was a local problem but just reading these few posts hit a nerve -- this is happening everywhere! It a serious symptom of people who DON'T KNOW WHERE THEIR FOOD COMES FROM. Sorry, had to say that loudly. It makes me so mad that people believe store bought food to come from sterile, germ-free, odor-free environments. I think people who want a germ-free life should be fed only food grown without fertilizers and dirt. Ha.

 

[OHChick]

i am sorry to say that i was one of those people who didn't know where my food comes from. i mean, i had a general idea, but not *really*.

i never lived in the country, never was raised in the country, etc. but after living out here for 4 years with my DH and raising a steer for meat, and a variety of veggies and now my chickies for eggs, i like to think i'm a different person and it causes me to make different choices at the grocery etc.

it does stink that people move to the 'country' and want the rules changed to suit their lifestyle...but not all of us who 'don't where the food comes from' are crazy. i like to think there are a lot of folks like me...eager to learn, enthusiastic and excited.

p.s. we have 'covenants' on our land too... the only real restriction for us with regard to animals is pigs. which is too bad. i think pigs are cute and i LOVE bacon/ham/etc, but i guess we will just have to buy a pig from someone else.

 

[sundance]

I managed apt. complex for years, mostly low income,wholived on food stamps and welfare, but I had a few seniors who probably remembered the days of the depression, Any one of them was allowed flowers,and I never thought to tell someone with a tomato plant or a pepper plant growing in a container they could not have it.They enjoyed the plants and I enjoyed their pleasure in something as simple as growing a plant in a pot.

marrie

 

[inudat12]

After seeing this post, I recalled reading in our local paper about farm owners having their land designated as agricultural districts. So I went and did some searching and this is what I found.

Happy Reading.

Times-Gazette.com
Ohio agriculture secretary favors 'agriculture districts'
Kristine Philips
June 23, 2007

Ohio Department of Agriculture

REYNOLDSBURG -- Ohio Department of Agriculture Director Fred L. Dailey encourages farmers to invest in their farm's future by placing their farmland in an "agricultural district." Forms are available at all local county auditor's offices.

"The agricultural district law is one of the best farmland protection tools the state has today because it can help keep the farmer on the farm and land in production," said Dailey. "By having farmland designated as an agricultural district, farmers can gain protection from nuisance lawsuits, defer expensive development assessments until the land is changed to a non-agriculture use and protect farmland from some eminent domain land acquisitions."

Landowners can qualify for an agricultural district with 10 or more acres or land that generates an average of at least $2,500 annually for three years prior to application. This status needs to be renewed every five years. Updated application forms are now available at Ohio county auditor offices.

The benefits of enrolling in an agricultural district include:

n Nuisance suits protection -- Agricultural district status can protect farmers from nuisance lawsuits as long as the farmer is following acceptable best management practices. This can prevent frivolous lawsuits for odors and noises associated with agriculture.

n Deferring assessments -- Another aspect of development that can impact a farm is the extension of water, sewer, and electric lines. These lines are usually paid for by the landowner, often assessed on frontage. A farmer with extensive frontage could face costs large enough to require selling a portion of the farm. To prevent that, the law defers the assessments on agricultural district farmland, excluding the homestead, until the land is changed to another use or withdrawn from the agricultural district.

n Eminent domain protection -- If eminent domain is used on 10 acres or 10 percent of the total agricultural district land, whichever is greater, the law calls for a review by the state agriculture director to determine if an alternative to the proposed project is possible. This could serve as an affirmative defense in frivolous seizing of private land in agricultural production.

A companion law is the current agricultural use valuation program. The CAUV provides relief on farmland property taxes. Please contact your local county auditor's office for more information about the agricultural district or CAUV programs.

This is in OHIO....I will do more searching because I'm sure our lawmakers didn't think this up on their own.

Tracy

 

[d.k]

*Summerwindsfarm, You hit the nail right dead center.