love the pic's...
Russian Orloffs
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beautiful birds.
NC....
Thanks. I want to see a bit more breast meat in my cockerels but how beautiful. If you go for cuckoo please breed for tight zippers like the heritage BR and Dominiques. AND share of course.
The white beard is definitely kosher in my book. Even the pinched neck/hackle. I don't have a problem with beards or combs or color here just type and I want more eggs, more weight and evenly spread spangling. For so many reasons Spring can't get here fast enough. In the 20s here. blah
The white beard is definitely kosher in my book. Even the pinched neck/hackle. I don't have a problem with beards or combs or color here just type and I want more eggs, more weight and evenly spread spangling. For so many reasons Spring can't get here fast enough. In the 20s here. blah
Hey guys, I need a little advice...
I got some chicks from a local(ish) lady, and it turns out they were infected with mycoplasmosis and it has spread to my main egg laying flock. Praise Jesus it has not spread to my Orloff pen, but everything that I'm reading suggests that it's hard to contain, especially since the chickens that have it are now asymptomatic carriers for life. I'm trying to maintain a high level of bio security but I'm a little nervous that it will spread to my Orloff pen.
She suggested that I treat with Tylan and that cleared it up but I know they are not cured. I wouldn't make a big deal about it if I could close my flock and just keep the birds until they were no longer laying and then cull. I know that this is common in most backyard flocks even though there may not be any symptoms present. The problem is that I am currently working on breeding my Orloffs and they have been my project and my most prized birds. I'm finally starting to get some really great looking chicks, but now that all this is happening I may not be able to sell them.
I am beyond disgusted with her. When I finally figured out what was making them sick I let her know and she said that her flock also had it. She ended up culling her whole outside flock. I feel like she knew her birds had this, especially since she knew exactly what to treat them with, but she has promised me that she didn't intentionally sell me sick birds. She didn't cull any of her flock until I told her that she can't sell or bring any new birds into her flock. I have culled 13 of the sick birds from my grow out pen and from my laying flock.
I am also super ticked because she sold two of my project Orloffs (knowing full well that they are not to standard) for an obscene amount of money, and she paid me peanuts for them. When she bought them she only wanted them to add some diversity to her flock, and she had no plans of selling or breeding them. I am embarrassed because they are not perfect yet and I feel like she should have been more honest to the person who bought them from her.
Anyway... I have some questions that you might be able to answer about Mycoplasmosis. I have read a lot about the disease but I haven't found all the answers yet. I am praying that I don't have to cull the whole flock and start over.
I refuse to sell any birds until I know all the answers. This has been a nightmare and I don't wish it on anyone!!
1. If chickens are exposed to a sick bird, will they automatically become carriers of the disease if they never show any symptoms? Can the hens that are not sick be bred and can I sell the chicks if those hens have not gotten sick?
2. I know that hens can pass the disease through the egg to the embryo, so selling fertilized eggs/chicks from an infected hen is out. What about the rooster? If he is a carrier but the hen is not, will the chicks still be carriers?
3. If this was your flock, what would your course of action be?
Thanks for listening and for your advice!!
I got some chicks from a local(ish) lady, and it turns out they were infected with mycoplasmosis and it has spread to my main egg laying flock. Praise Jesus it has not spread to my Orloff pen, but everything that I'm reading suggests that it's hard to contain, especially since the chickens that have it are now asymptomatic carriers for life. I'm trying to maintain a high level of bio security but I'm a little nervous that it will spread to my Orloff pen.
She suggested that I treat with Tylan and that cleared it up but I know they are not cured. I wouldn't make a big deal about it if I could close my flock and just keep the birds until they were no longer laying and then cull. I know that this is common in most backyard flocks even though there may not be any symptoms present. The problem is that I am currently working on breeding my Orloffs and they have been my project and my most prized birds. I'm finally starting to get some really great looking chicks, but now that all this is happening I may not be able to sell them.
I am beyond disgusted with her. When I finally figured out what was making them sick I let her know and she said that her flock also had it. She ended up culling her whole outside flock. I feel like she knew her birds had this, especially since she knew exactly what to treat them with, but she has promised me that she didn't intentionally sell me sick birds. She didn't cull any of her flock until I told her that she can't sell or bring any new birds into her flock. I have culled 13 of the sick birds from my grow out pen and from my laying flock.
I am also super ticked because she sold two of my project Orloffs (knowing full well that they are not to standard) for an obscene amount of money, and she paid me peanuts for them. When she bought them she only wanted them to add some diversity to her flock, and she had no plans of selling or breeding them. I am embarrassed because they are not perfect yet and I feel like she should have been more honest to the person who bought them from her.
Anyway... I have some questions that you might be able to answer about Mycoplasmosis. I have read a lot about the disease but I haven't found all the answers yet. I am praying that I don't have to cull the whole flock and start over.
1. If chickens are exposed to a sick bird, will they automatically become carriers of the disease if they never show any symptoms? Can the hens that are not sick be bred and can I sell the chicks if those hens have not gotten sick?
2. I know that hens can pass the disease through the egg to the embryo, so selling fertilized eggs/chicks from an infected hen is out. What about the rooster? If he is a carrier but the hen is not, will the chicks still be carriers?
3. If this was your flock, what would your course of action be?
Thanks for listening and for your advice!!
I'm not really up on mycoplasmosis but just in general i breed my birds for resistance... if i remember right mycoplasmosis is one of those diseases that are every where and is very hard to keep out of your flocks... that is just from my memory and i have been known to be wrong lol...
in general i would cull any birds that show bad simptions and then hatch out a ton of chicks from the parents that survived and u will breed resistance into your flocks...
in general i would cull any birds that show bad simptions and then hatch out a ton of chicks from the parents that survived and u will breed resistance into your flocks...
So Sorry that happened. It's, unfortunately, a chance we take. And sadly there are many out there to make a buck.
As I understand it, the best way is to eliminate the flock and sanitize the area. After 3-4 or so weeks you can introduce non-infected birds into the area. I believe you can also treat fertile eggs with antibiotic injection to eliminate it in the egg before hatching. So, that being said, what I would most likely do is cull the main flock, gather fertile eggs from Orloffs and others I want to save. Inject them with tylan (dosage?). Incubate them and place them in a new, sanitized brooder after hatching. Then move them into the yard once they've feathered out. Do blood tests at 1 month and continue them at intervals for the first year to insure no infection is present. I would check the disease thread here and probably try to find an example of someone having success dosing the eggs. If I couldn't find that, I would cull everything and start over.
Good luck with whatever you choose to do and keep us posted.
Take care,
Ivy
As I understand it, the best way is to eliminate the flock and sanitize the area. After 3-4 or so weeks you can introduce non-infected birds into the area. I believe you can also treat fertile eggs with antibiotic injection to eliminate it in the egg before hatching. So, that being said, what I would most likely do is cull the main flock, gather fertile eggs from Orloffs and others I want to save. Inject them with tylan (dosage?). Incubate them and place them in a new, sanitized brooder after hatching. Then move them into the yard once they've feathered out. Do blood tests at 1 month and continue them at intervals for the first year to insure no infection is present. I would check the disease thread here and probably try to find an example of someone having success dosing the eggs. If I couldn't find that, I would cull everything and start over.
Good luck with whatever you choose to do and keep us posted.
Take care,
Ivy
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happyhens - I know nothing but check out Farmerboy16. https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=587948 He has been through it all and now has a clean flock. You have some tough times ahead from the sound of it.
Thanks for the advice, Ivy. I have also read that you can inject the eggs prior to incubating but I haven't found the dosage or the procedure yet. Truthfully I am leaning towards culling them all. It is heartbreaking! I wouldn't care if my flock's sole purpose was egg laying and I have also read that it's extremely common although some chickens never show signs, just carry the disease.
I am hoping to find someone in the area who feeds their dogs a raw meat diet so my birds won't have to die in vain. I will keep you all posted. Thank you!
I am hoping to find someone in the area who feeds their dogs a raw meat diet so my birds won't have to die in vain. I will keep you all posted. Thank you!
After reading lots of articles and data on mycoplasmosis, we have decided to cull our flock and start over. Next weekend might be the hardest thing I've ever done. We have 43 left and we are culling them all. It will be an extremely hard day, but is probably the best choice for the future...
After reading lots of articles and data on mycoplasmosis, we have decided to cull our flock and start over. Next weekend might be the hardest thing I've ever done. We have 43 left and we are culling them all. It will be an extremely hard day, but is probably the best choice for the future...
I am so sorry for what you are going through. I just can't even imagine, if that were my birds. So sad.
I am so sorry for what you are going through. I just can't even imagine, if that were my birds. So sad.
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