Salmonella outbreak

I knew nothing of this until I saw a report on CNN this morning.

We all accept, I suppose, that poultry can carry salmonella and that good hygiene and cooking practices are important. Perhaps one thing that encourages the spread is intense production methods. If salmonella kicks off in a battery establishment it must spread much more quickly to many more hens than would be the case in a low density but clean environment such as a traditional farm yard. High volume egg producers have no choice but to work to the absolute limit of what the Regulations allow, and then some if employees aren't watched closely. If they were to work to less productive or intensive standards their eggs would be more expensive and people would not buy them. It's tempting to blame 'corporate greed', and the high level permissions to work to intensive methods must come from somewhere, but if a lot of people want a lot of eggs in their shops then battery poultry farms are inevitable.

That's not to say I accept the standards that lead to these outbreaks. There are two appalling examples from the UK that I recall and I have to assume now that nothing much has been learned from them.

Back in the late 1990's I ran a conference for a few staff in a good country hotel. On the last morning nearly all of us were so ill I asked for the local Health Inspector to visit, take swabs and check the kitchen. He told me quietly that the UK had a problem with Salmonella and expected the tests would prove that was what we had. A month later I called him and he angrily denied that it was Salmonella, claiming he had never suggested it was. He said that one of my people must have brought a bug with him and passed it on. I assumed that he was 'protecting' the reputation of the hotel. Only a few days later, the British Minister For Health, Edwina Currie at the time, announced that she had discovered a cover up of a huge problem with Salmonella in the poultry industry. The Civil Service must have been involved for that to happen. We all cheered her courage. She was sacked by the Prime Minister.

Just about three Novembers back, a major turkey producer in England had an outbreak of Avian 'Flu on his 'farm' just as shops were stocking for Christmas. He always promoted his business with an image of green open land and a country squire style. It was, of course, a battery business with big sheds but no-one thought much about that when buying their Christmas turkeys. It was discovered that he had a factory in an Eastern European country where the required standards were lower and he shipped birds over to his premises in England. That East European country had an outbreak of Avian 'Flu. The owner said that the outbreak was in the east and his factory was in the west. Then it was found that he was buying from the east of the country, moving birds to the factory in the west and then on to England.

The owner wasn't finished with. A group of animal rights activists got close to one of his huge sheds one night with a movie camera and filmed employees inside using a live turkey as a football. The movie was soon all over the TV news broadcasts. The owner retired a multi-millionaire this year.

What I have just written about this turkey business is all in the public domain. See Wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Matthews

If anyone thinks that intensive poultry rearing is humane, look at this report and the video included in it. The text and video report on investigations in Britain eight or nine years ago. British agriculture is heavily regulated and monitored by government agencies and yet these appaling conditions existed. I wonder whether much has changed since then. Do you think that conditions are the same in some places in the US?

http://www.viva.org.uk/campaigns/turkeys/turkeys-companyinfo.htm
 
i saw on the news where patients are suing the egg producers for medical cost/pain/ suffering and lost wages.....i give my eggs away, i get about 2 doz. a day and there are just two of us, but this scares me as we could not afford a law suit...you can't watch individuals to see how they are handling and cooking the eggs, we eat our eggs and my chickens free range as well as are fed , i think i'm going to just stop giving them away...boy i hate to see all those beautiful eggs going to waste. they also said chicken feed could be a source of the salmonella.
 
Quote:
Roddy, I saw your posts on there! The other people gave the "inhumane monsters" talk & you approached with facts & in a polite manner, it was very nice to read!

Yup, people like him bash the poultry industry in order to make themselves look better. Since a large portion of the nation knows nothing about what really happens in these laying houses, they'll believe whatever is said... Unfortunately, it's usually horrible things said, and usually by smaller egg producers hoping to cash in.
 
Quote:
LOL, Terri! I read that but I didnt bother thinking it through. He probably THINKS he's getting 20 doz. a day but its all of the eggs piling up in a corner until he finds them, Im sure.
 
Let's think about this for a moment there were 500 million eggs recalled from only 2 different farms in Iowa all sharing the same suppliers of feed and other supplies and equipment, and owned by the same person who has been labeled by the dept of Ag as a habititual violater and has been banned from starting or owning any additional farms. with that said the facts to date as per the FDA is that the current outbreak was caused by vermen or mice/Rat droppings that feed on the chicken feed and deposit their droppings in the chicken feed and the chickens consume the Rat feces. The bacteria is stored in the overies of the laying hen's and is in the egg upon development. Now they have said that the recall is for eggs dated from April to August of this year, and we all know how long these eggs can & are in the food chain and in most cases it is month's before they arrive on store shelves, hence the thin runny consistancy of old store bought egg's verses our bright colored firm yolk & whites of our egg's from our home layin hen's.

I am not defending this company by no means but it shouldn't considered a standard practice for all poultry operations, My wifes family is in the Biz and I have seen their barns and they are very well cared for. with that said we always run into bad nieghbors and businesses and it is just how it is, we as chicken owners an advocates have a different take on it as opposed to some city folk who have never so much as seen a live chicken.

So let's just hope the Fed's and the FDA can get a handle on this subject before it can cause anymore harm.

AL
 
Disappointed to hear they are still pending investigations....would they hurry up and find out what's the problem and where did it originated from?????????????
barnie.gif
 

New posts New threads Active threads

Back
Top Bottom