Seeking Info on new "Asia Black" Chicken "Breed"

[Kiki]

It's a breed, just a new, unrecognized breed developed by Hoover's that probably will never catch on. Every backyard breed, whether it be Australorp or Rhode Island Red, was once just as new as an Asia Black or Asia BlluE. I ended up with 16 Asia Blues by mistake when I ordered Australops from Hover and they packed the wrong breed in the box. They're calm and pretty descent layers. Very hardy, as I haven't had any losses after eleven months. Hardiness and multipurpose is what they were breeding for from what I've gathered.

Can you please post a few pictures of your 11 month old chickens.
There are other people here with new Asian chicks purchased from TSC recently and are wondering what the will look like as an "adult"

 

[LadyVictorian]

In order for something to be a breed it needs to have a breed standards and it needs to breed 100% true. Which means if I breed 2 of them I should get a bird that looks exactly like the parents and not like it's lost some of those traits or that they look like an entirely different bird or even slightly different bird from the parents. Asian Blacks/Blues also all look a little different, no standards. Some are pure black, some have brown on the heads, some have brown through their whole body. There is no breed standard for them and though no one has spoken up I find it unlikely they would breed true either being they were produced by hatcheries which lets face it, they wouldn't know how to create and actual breed like the heritage birds we have now a days if someone walked them through it. They don't even breed the REAL breeds to breed standards. Anything from a hatchery is not a true heritage bird or even a purebred. They are all 'mutts' designed with the purpose for meat, eggs, or both.

Not to say they are any less valid for people not interested in exhibiting these birds but for people like me who have a great interest in showing their birds they are not going to nor will ever make the snuff or become APA as pointed out with the Production Reds. They are still nice for just average backyard chicken keepers because an egg is an egg no matter the bird and they do seem to grow faster than heritage birds when it comes to butcher age (which also makes me think they are more of a hybrid as well). But for people like me and I know many others who want a bird you can produce eggs with at their happy rate and show and exhibit they won't ever be in my breeding pens.

 

[Angels Eggs]

I just got three Asian Black pulletts today at TSC. They are all black and cute as can be. I am happy just to be able to have these cuties. I will post pictures later. I was just looking for a duel purpose bird with large brown eggs. They were a dollar each cause they had so many.

 

[yeye5]

Asian Blacks do not have a white head spot. Those chicks would be either Black Sexlink cockerels, or Barred Rocks.

Thanks @Junebuggena
I went there originally to get black sexlinks so if those boys turn out to be that, I'd have reached my goal.
I am noticing a few differences between the 5 pullets I got out of the black sexlink bin and the 2 solid head+3 white spot heads got from the asian black bin (st run)"
The white spot heads are getting a sort of barring on their wing feathers, however it is MUCH wider than any BR I've seen before. All have other white markings, from minimal on chest, neck and belly to one that has an almost all white face.
The black sexlink pullets have dark feet whereas the solid heads of the "Asian black" have yellow legs and no barring on wings.
I need to take new pics and I'll post their developments.

I offer these details in case they can help determine what exactly I have here...
Above all they're all very sweet. The "males" are quite big!
I appreciate the opinions and help from everyone!

 

[Kiki]

Thanks @Junebuggena
I went there originally to get black sexlinks so if those boys turn out to be that, I'd have reached my goal.
I am noticing a few differences between the 5 pullets I got out of the black sexlink bin and the 2 solid head+3 white spot heads got from the asian black bin (st run)"
The white spot heads are getting a sort of barring on their wing feathers, however it is MUCH wider than any BR I've seen before. All have other white markings, from minimal on chest, neck and belly to one that has an almost all white face.
The black sexlink pullets have dark feet whereas the solid heads of the "Asian black" have yellow legs and no barring on wings.
I need to take new pics and I'll post their developments.

I offer these details in case they can help determine what exactly I have here...
Above all they're all very sweet. The "males" are quite big!
I appreciate the opinions and help from everyone!

Keep this thread updated...Pictures would be a awesome.
Thanks!

 

[yeye5]

Keep this thread updated...Pictures would be a awesome.
Thanks!

I took tons of pics.
Please bear in mind, I got 5 pullets from the black sexlink bin. I got 5 straight run from the Asian Black bin.
After mixing them all up, I realized that I'd further complicated my breed questions. Oh well...
The only ones I'm sure came from the Asian bin are the 3 with white on their heads. Those are most certainly getting barring on their wings.
I've only raised one male BR from a few days old. In my (possibly not so clear) memory, the barring on his feathers came in all at once, whereas these got one white stripe accross their wing feathers, followed by a second white stripe a few days later, etc Also, the spaces between the white bars looks to be much wider on these than on the BR (Ernie) I raised before.
The "pullets" (5 black sexlink plus 2 maybe-pullets from the asians) have dark feet which have progressively gotten darker with time. There is a common odd feature of one toe--the middle--which is 2/3 white going toward the nail! Also many have a white small part of the winner wing and white under their chins.
"A picture is worth a thousand words" so I'll shut up and post the pics.

This chick has mostly a white face.



Same chick on the right with another one of the white spot heads.




Here is the 3rd white spot head

 

[junebuggena]

I took tons of pics.
Please bear in mind, I got 5 pullets from the black sexlink bin. I got 5 straight run from the Asian Black bin.
After mixing them all up, I realized that I'd further complicated my breed questions. Oh well...
The only ones I'm sure came from the Asian bin are the 3 with white on their heads. Those are most certainly getting barring on their wings.
I've only raised one male BR from a few days old. In my (possibly not so clear) memory, the barring on his feathers came in all at once, whereas these got one white stripe accross their wing feathers, followed by a second white stripe a few days later, etc Also, the spaces between the white bars looks to be much wider on these than on the BR (Ernie) I raised before.
The "pullets" (5 black sexlink plus 2 maybe-pullets from the asians) have dark feet which have progressively gotten darker with time. There is a common odd feature of one toe--the middle--which is 2/3 white going toward the nail! Also many have a white small part of the winner wing and white under their chins.
"A picture is worth a thousand words" so I'll shut up and post the pics.

This chick has mostly a white face.



Same chick on the right with another one of the white spot heads.




Here is the 3rd white spot head

First two are definitely some sort of mixed breed, possibly a non-typical black sexlink. None are Asian Blacks.

 

[yeye5]

This is the odd white toe most of them have in common.



The pics 2 and 3 above are the same chick.



Not sure since I didn't mark the pics while taking them. I believe that pic 4 is a different chick than pic 5.
The wings on chick in pic 5 have hints of red-brown coming in. There is another of them that has even more red-brown already showing.


This is the one with the most red-brown. Below are her wings.


Any ideas what I've got???

 

[yeye5]

First two are definitely some sort of mixed breed, possibly a non-typical black sexlink. None are Asian Blacks.

Can you tell at this point what kind of striping or barring they'll have when they are grown? Thank you.

 

[junebuggena]

Can you tell at this point what kind of striping or barring they'll have when they are grown? Thank you.

They are barred, but it looks like they also have other patterning genes that will allow more silver base color to show through than a typical male sexlink.