Self Blue (Lavender) Silkie Thread

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Brenda also lives in Texas and does ship. Both are super nice ladies and have wonderful birds.

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Betsy,

They are awesome ladies!! I had a blast with them. Beautiful birds!
 
I have to really bug my parents beacuse I really want them! I need more hens anyway becasue I think that majority of my peeps are roos!
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Hello...I heard "lavender" and that gets me going.
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First thing...I am not into genetcis at all, I just do what I am told. The guy who is the creator of Lavenders just points me in the right direction for color and I know type and quality so off I go! In the beginninng...with Deb's orginal birds the crossing was to her excellent white lines. WHITE because that is all she had. Donnie wanted to go with black but Deb had WHITE.
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The two of them worked for ....I don't know how long but a year or so and got the crossings to begin with...non showing lavender color. By crossing those back for several generations they determined which birds were carrying the lavender gene. This is just one gene...not enough to turn the lights on. Good example there! Once they knew who the carriers were they started crossing them back to each other and got 50% mutts (strange mixed up colors) 25% white (since that was the orginal crossing and then 25% lavender colored birds. NOW they had the lights on with the two genes. At this point they contacted me. Lucky for me I knew them both and I live close.
 
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Bren

I always come running when I hear lavender too. You know every chance I get to post pics of my Beauties from You and Deb, I just can't resist. I am going to take new pictures this weekend and post them on this thread. My little Cockerel is turning out really nice!

Hey Bren if you get a White Cockerel available will you holler at me. I thought I have 4 and 1 Pullet. Looks like I might have 5 pullets.
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They are so slow maturing, they still have a ways to go. But, no crowing, no larger comb, NO NOTHING. I guess I'll have to scrape the bottom of my piggy bank and see what I can come up with.
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Once Deb was getting lavenders she sold me her breeding birds. None of these birds showed lavender but were definate carriers and EXCELLENT TYPE. The first year I got 12 lavenders. Yes, a whole season of breeding and only 12. Out of that I had 2 pullets. GREAT:P The next year I crossed those back to a very good cockerel and I got 18 and more pullets. The really good thing about lavender is it breeds true. Once you really have a full lavender...you know LIGHTS ON for real, you will get lavenders. When you don't then something isn't right. Either you have birds crossed with splash along the way, or another color, and they are looking lavender but genetically not. Let's back up a bit and explain our lingo..."mutts" are the off colored silkies you get from lavender crossing. I find that these mutts are usually the best type but the color is all wrong for showing. "Splits" is a term I started using since I was raising peafowl and hear that a lot with them. When I crossed a black silkie with a lavender rooster thinking this hen was a mutt I got a lot of black chicks, really NICE black chicks. I began calling them black split to lavender. In the past most of my mutts were nearly black with silver or gold in their hackles. So, when I finally realized I had actually crossed back to black genes we were excited to see that the brassy/gold off color we got at times in our cockerels was now not showing as much. All the other breeders I was working with started doing the same thing...crossing back to good quality blacks. This turned out to be really good since you can get excellent lavenders or blacks while improving your lavender color. I also see much darker skin color and eye color with the black crosses. All my birds now have a black base but I still throw two different looks. Some chicks have stripes while others don't...First I believed it was certain hens but after tracking for several months I saw no difference with one than another...they were actually throwing both type of chicks. Besides working with Deb I have another friend in Colorado who strated with our lines but with adding her own black birds has now crossed and got her OWN lines. She has the same results as I do with the types of chicks hatching. She has sold some of her birds to Shagbark.
 
Hi Brenda,
Thanks for jumping and and giving the history of your breedings for others to see. I can't wait to breed the "quad" members to my Lav lines. You are so right about the type on the birds from the Lav lines. I have gotten some awesome splash & blues that have popped out of the lavs, "my mutts". I had a really nice Lav pullet go best AOV last week at a show, beating some nice Porcelains,Lavs & Calico. I can't wait to cross her with one of the Cockerals from the quad.
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AGAIN...not into genetics but.....


Recessive White is a "cover up" color, and it can cover up any other color. Each time you breed White to White, you will always get White. What's behind the white is a colored mutt, it can be any color or combination of colors. Most White breeders don' know or care what color the mutt is, because when you breed white to white you get white no matter what color the mutt is behind it. Lavender is much like white in that it covers most colors up, except that it doesn't cover red completely and red will show through as a yellow spot or feather in the lavender bird.
When you cross White with Lavender both these recessive genes disappear, and the result is like crossing the Mutt behind the white with the mutt behind the lavender. You get a bunch of Mutts. These Mutts all carry a Lavender gene and when bred to each other or to a Lavender bird they will produce a percentage of Lavender offspring.
Mutts are all colors, some range to grey to black to partridge and many indescribable colors.



So you can cross your lavenders with any color, some being harder to tell what you are getting than others. Remember it will take you two generations to know what you really have under those crosses. Don't let the appearance fool you one way or the other. You need to KNOW the breeding background of your birds. I just like the results adding the black base to my birds.


OK...that is about all I know.
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Thanks EVERYONE! Bren, somehow, some way I purchased birds and they are from your lines. How lucky did I get? I am new to silkies and had not even heard of Birds of Paradise. (Now I pay attention when I hear BOP!)Just wanted to add silkies to my flock. A person in Kansas sold me extra Lavender Project Birds. Four out of the six are turning out to be roos but that is okay. I have black and splash pullets. I really do not even have a project but wanted decent silkies. Pretty hard to come by over here on the Western Slope of Colorado.

I am so happy with all my silkies. The birds I have are Black/Lav split and the person in Kansas may have gotten her silkies from your friend in Colorado.
This thread is very helpful. I am trying to understand Genetics but retaining the info when not in Laymens (sp?) terms is a little difficult for me. F1, F2 etc. I will get it eventually. So in the mean time I will be watching this thread. THANKS AGAIN!
 

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