Shadrach's Ex Battery and Rescued chickens thread.

[Shadrach]

I was not aware of the 5 freedoms either. Good to know! Great tip on 5-freedom is conflicting with many AI lockdown measures.

I can't help wondering what would happen if one went to court with such a defence.

 

[RoyalChick]

I can't help wondering what would happen if one went to court with such a defence.

I read today that 50% of the UK's freerange turkeys were destroyed because of AI. 50%? That is astonishingly high. Can that possibly be true?

 

[no fly zone]

Laserbeak

 

[MaryJanet]

I can't help wondering what would happen if one went to court with such a defence.

A settlement, I imagine.

 

[BDutch]

Morning X Batts.. We use chips in the coop itself.. Rule of thumb here hay will mold if wet.
Chips compost fast. JMHOView attachment 3338322

How fast wood chips compost depends on the kind of wood chips. There are differences in break down time with eg pine, oak, fruit trees or chestnut. And the size of the chips make a difference too of course.

 

[Shadrach]

I read today that 50% of the UK's freerange turkeys were destroyed because of AI. 50%? That is astonishingly high. Can that possibly be true?

I've read similar. If this isn't a warning for the large commercial concerns I can't imagine what will be. The problem as I see it isn't so much the virus, it's the stocking density as they call it.
It's a serious problem for many wild species of bird but nobody is making any money out of them so they don't matter.
It's an industrial bio security problem.

 

[Molpet]

Shad are these dry chips?
Fresh chips can cause a mold if they haven't composted a bit.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/dying-chickens.1129854/page-9

 

[Perris]

I can't help wondering what would happen if one went to court with such a defence.

Should such an unlikely thing happen, at the speed our justice system is working, I imagine that this outbreak will be history, and the policy will have long changed.

 

[Perris]

I can't help wondering what would happen if one went to court with such a defence.

More seriously, there is lots of scope for interpretation. The animal welfare act of 2016 is not trumped by defra temporary measures to try to prevent the spread of ai - which as a disease is only one of the things we should try to protect our birds from. Freedom from stress, unsuitable housing, overcrowding etc have the same weighting in law, as does the freedom to express natural behaviours.

 

[BDutch]

I've read similar. If this isn't a warning for the large commercial concerns I can't imagine what will be. The problem as I see it isn't so much the virus, it's the stocking density as they call it.
It's a serious problem for many wild species of bird but nobody is making any money out of them so they don't matter.
It's an industrial bio security problem.

No, in NL its a concern for BYC and organic /outdoor free range poultry keepers too. In the largest part of the Netherlands it is forbidden to really free range your chickens.

ALL chickens are locked up in one way or another. And now the organisation of commercially poultry keepers want more control from authorities to fine the keepers who let their birds free range outside.

This made me really angry. Bc the commercial factory farming is the cause of this situation. They don’t want to decrease the numbers or vaccinate their poultry because eggs and meat are export products.

And wild birds, rats and maybe even cats are probably more the problem that the virus keep on spreading. Its highly unlikely that small backyard chicken owners are the main cause.*

In NL we have several so called clearings almost every week. Sometimes even > 200.000 in one large factory farm.

*: added small backyard