Shadrach's Ex Battery and Rescued chickens thread.

[MaryJanet]

Profit motive is one thing if the desire is simply to have a decent livelihood. Pay off a loan, own a bit of land, provide for your family and/or community. But the profit motive to accumulate billions of dollars -- I just don't get it. I really don't.

Nor do I.

 

[lightm]

@TropicalChickies
Love your food talk. I am trying to do my part: compost, fruit trees, lots of perennials, gardening, chicken poop, backyard eggs... Also we have been getting all our meats from a farm 2 hours away. Getting away from "grocery shopping".

 

[Molpet]

Profit motive is one thing if the desire is simply to have a decent livelihood. Pay off a loan, own a bit of land, provide for your family and/or community. But the profit motive to accumulate billions of dollars -- I just don't get it. I really don't.

I agree
The love of money and power is the root of most of our problems.

 

[Sequel]

Nor do I.

Nor do I! It’s just crazy!

 

[Sequel]

I agree
The love of money and power is the root of most of our problems.

 

[kcan2]

We spent quite a lot of that time complaining to each other that it didn't really seem fair that we dug and the hens just dived on anything remotely edible without even considering that we might like a snack from time to time.

It seems that you could be asked the same question I often pose to my rooster, "why did you just let that go?" I often complain to him that I made a special trip to bring something specifically for his consumption that he just passively lets a hen greedily gobble up. There just must be something special about those hens!

 

[Perris]

I was busy yesterday so missed most of the interesting discussion on alternatives to modern industrial agriculture, but if it's not too late to chip in, I recommend this book https://www.backyardchickens.com/re...ing-chickens-and-other-fowl-for-home-a.11619/ to anyone wanting to get their chickens multitasking (and as a useful reference book to have on hand for a whole host of other things like feed and disease too).

 

[BDutch]

@BDutch
Do they have this in your country?
View attachment 3485103

https://www.poultryworld.net/the-in...aring-male-chicks-as-alternative-meat-source/

Yes, this trademark Kipster is sold by Lidl supermarket. The eggs come in blue boxes with 5 eggs.

Last winter I saw these eggs were often sold out. Never mind because I prefer organic eggs (to protect the rainforest and my own health).

I never looked for the Kipster meat myself, because I don’t eat chicken. It’s probably less than 1% of the chicken-meat they sell in the supermarkets/shops.

There is another trademark (No cockerel kills) were the owners take a tiny bit of fluid from a week old hatching eggs. The fluid indicated boy or girl. The male eggs are taken out and only female eggs hatch.

 

[BDutch]

I have been told that in order to feed the over population of people, intensive monoculture farming is needed.

Nonsense. Eating less meat (no need of so much land for feeding farm animals ) contributes enough to make a more sustainable way of agriculture possible. Monocultures kill the soil and uses too much poisons for a sustainable future. Monocultures are one of the reasons the bees and other insects are getting extinct. In my country there has been an awful drop of insect numbers because of environment pollution by factory farming + monocultures.

(I’m not responding regularly because of a short vacation and lousy wifi)

 

[BDutch]

Unfortunately, Germany already has a reputation for hypocrisy when it comes to their own consumption patterns and "concern" for broader issues like animal welfare or deforestation.

For example, Germany is the second leading importer of Brazilian soybeans. The soybeans are used to feed pigs in German industrial pig farms. Germany is the leading producer and consumer of pig meat as a result.

Soybean farming in Brazil is causing deforestation of the Amazon on a massive and truly horrifying scale. More than two soccer fields per second are destroyed. This affects everyone. NASA scientists and the UN Foresight Briefs both conclude that stable rainfall patterns around the world are maintained by moisture generated by tropical forests in the equatorial belt.

But Germany, somehow, also promotes it's pig meat as a "clean, sustainable" product. And has just signed a EU agree to block products linked to deforestation.

Can you say "doublespeak"?

It’s about the same in the Netherlands. Our feed industry imports poisoned GMO soy an mais from former rainforest land in Brazil. The farmers feed it to the animals (for people who buy too much cheap meat and lot’s of it for export) . And we have a problem with too much dung and bad air.
The NOx pollution in our country is way too high. It goes beyond the farmland. + Factories and traffic contribute to the nitrogen pollution too. Therefore the soil in natural/ protected area’s has become polluted too. Many flowers/plants that should grow in nature get extinct. Consequence is that insects / animals who live directly or indirectly on these plants get into trouble too.
Other plants take over and the feed industry/farmers claim that there is no harm done in nature.