Shadrach's Ex Battery and Rescued chickens thread.

[BDutch]

but I'm still not sure where and how I will grow them.

Maybe it works if you put up something with horizontal wiring or a fence to support the sunflowers?

I know this 10cm wide fence material is sturdy and rather cheap (used in concrete constructions) :

After reading this, the browser suggested I read this article next Creepy internet but a good enough read:
https://www.popsci.com/science/can-animals-have-mental-illness/

Dogs often get mental issues bc people don’t give the right upbringing.

Last week the police took away 70 dogs and pups out of someone’s basement in the Netherlands. Many pups where to young to be parted from their mother and the whole place was gross and stinky (urine).

And people often don’t realise dogs can be as dangerous as wolfs.

One week earlier a catastrophic event with huskies was on our news (from Belgium). A mother was feeding the huskies with her young son. The huskies attacked the child and the mother had a hard time to free him. The child died in hospital. And the dogs got killed, bc they can never be trusted anymore.

Have you seen Mow's type of behavior in other birds who lost their siblings?

You’re not asking me, but I have a hen who got mental problems after her brothers left and she was a lonely pullet.

Janice was harassed by het aunties after her brothers left. She slept on a roost in the extension, with the other hens before her brothers left. The mother abandoned her a couple of weeks earlier and didn’t protect her. Janice started to sleep in the nest-box again, and later alone on a roost in the small coop.
She still prefers her own ‘bedroom’. Which is rather strange behaviour for a chicken.

Janice's coop. At this time the nestboxes where occupied by 2 broodies. Ini mini visited them ( being curious or wanting to steal the chick feed).

 

[Molpet]

And people often don’t realise dogs can be as dangerous as wolfs.

In the 1960s and early 70s , my parents raised show dogs. There was another st Bernard breeder about 40 miles away. We would both be in the same show circuit. These other people's st Bernards were aggressive and the offspring were aggressive. We had swapped male puppies for breeding. At 8 wks old it would attack 9 week old puppies it was put in with. The 9 week old they got was killed by the 8 week old puppies it was put in with. We gave the puppy back after 2 weeks because it wasn't working out.
So I think alot is nature

 

[Shadrach]

Maybe Mow's just odd hen out? The only hen of her brood and the only white hen?

Maybe. Dink was the only surviving chick and the only white hen in her tribe. She was very odd and undeniably extraordinary. None of her chicks washed up white. Her mother died before Dink reached adulthood.
A young Dink.

Grown up Dink.

On the other hand Moon who was mostly white fitted in very well but had a sister and mother.
Moon.

"This means animals can’t experience specific types of clinical depression possible in humans. Siracusa says this may be because animals lack a very sophisticated prefrontal cortical function necessary for long-term planning."

Can't agree with the above.

Interesting view of Tip the elephant.

I have often wondered if eating Dig wasn't in the best interests of Mow. Tull and Sylph have adapted so well probably because they had each other. But, Fret mothered Mow way past what I had expected.

 

[Molpet]

I have often wondered if eating Dig wasn't in the best interests of Mow.

Not enough hens for 2 males and a confined space that no one can get away. Someone would have been injured.

I have a white pullet that spends her time alone. Her black sister and 2 brothers have fitted in. Another coop has a white pullet that was an only and she mostly fits in.

 

[Canadian Wind]

In the 1960s and early 70s , my parents raised show dogs. There was another st Bernard breeder about 40 miles away. We would both be in the same show circuit. These other people's st Bernards were aggressive and the offspring were aggressive. We had swapped male puppies for breeding. At 8 wks old it would attack 9 week old puppies it was put in with. The 9 week old they got was killed by the 8 week old puppies it was put in with. We gave the puppy back after 2 weeks because it wasn't working out.
So I think alot is nature

Nature, for sure. I was adopted at the age of 4 months. Had an older brother and younger sister. My personality was completely different from the rest of the family.

In my mid 20s, I met my birth mother and many aunts, uncles, and cousins. I fit in perfectly!

 

[MrsNorthie]

I have often wondered if eating Dig wasn't in the best interests of Mow.

I don't know that you had many options where Dig was concerned, but I can see how maybe Mow feels a little detached. Whatever Digs faults, he tagged after Mow on her foraging adventures, but Henry has the others to look after too.

Maybe Mow will go broody when the weather is nice, and she can hatch a couple of her own chicks, to give her someone of her own to relate to.

 

[Shadrach]

I don't know that you had many options where Dig was concerned, but I can see how maybe Mow feels a little detached. Whatever Digs faults, he tagged after Mow on her foraging adventures, but Henry has the others to look after too.

Maybe Mow will go broody when the weather is nice, and she can hatch a couple of her own chicks, to give her someone of her own to relate to.

Not enough hens for 2 males and a confined space that no one can get away. Someone would have been injured.

I have a white pullet that spends her time alone. Her black sister and 2 brothers have fitted in. Another coop has a white pullet that was an only and she mostly fits in.

I mentioned when Mow and Dig were together that in other circumstances I would have tried to split them for the others and start a new tribe.
Dig had to go. It's just a shame about the circumstances.

 

[BDutch]

Maybe Mow will go broody when the weather is nice, and she can hatch a couple of her own chicks, to give her someone of her own to relate to.

I always thought that ex-broodies didn’t care about their hatched sons and daughters anymore after they stopped caring. But after this last hatch, Ini mini still goes to sleep with the 2 pullets. It’s not that the flock hierarchy has changed.

Black’s comb is red and big again. And she squatted for me today. Her first egg since she got broody in June is on his way!
Sorry for the quality.

 

[Sally PB]

Nature, for sure. I was adopted at the age of 4 months. Had an older brother and younger sister. My personality was completely different from the rest of the family.

In my mid 20s, I met my birth mother and many aunts, uncles, and cousins. I fit in perfectly!

My sister and brother were adopted as infants (in 1957 and 1960, when it wasn't very common). We were all brought up in the same house with the same parents.

We are/were NOTHING alike. Our views of many "big" things are/were totally different. Money, work, relationships, people... even the way we talk. There are words we never pronounced the same.

 

[Canadian Wind]

My sister and brother were adopted as infants (in 1957 and 1960, when it wasn't very common). We were all brought up in the same house with the same parents.

We are/were NOTHING alike. Our views of many "big" things are/were totally different. Money, work, relationships, people... even the way we talk. There are words we never pronounced the same.

I can believe it!!! Even actions. I rub my feet against one another as a sort of comfort/self-soothing/relaxing thing. When I met my birth mom, I noticed she did it too! And guess what? My daughter also does it!

Uh... I'll try to get some tax payment later!