I do herd. I used to use an old fishing rod but here it's a plastic rake. It helps mine are used to it & know it only comes out when I need them in bed so they know where they are supposed to be going. And they have a terrible habit of congregating around my feet which makes it easy to start the whole process off.That works for me too, except for getting them to bed, since we have no run so I can't con them into the coops - and trying to herd them in like sheep is a dead loss![]()