Shadrach's Ex Battery and Rescued chickens thread.

Wet and chilly. Three hours today.

It became apparent last week the if I couldn't put a stop to Carbon's diarrhea she was going to get weaker and weaker and eventually die.
Whatever the problem it affected her balance as well as her digestion. In Carbon's weakened condition from the diarrhea and moulting, especially given how long I had not interevened for, any heavy medication, esoecially a wrong medication was likely to do more harm than good.
I've tried a few local vets that say they see chickens, the only one that had a avian vet had one part time and there weren't any appointments left for the next clinic.
I got in contact with Gloria who was our vet in Spain. I sent pictures and an explanation of the problem (more pictures) and asked her advice.
The advice if she's still eating and drinking. Double dose of Flubendazole given directly for six days; on the third day give Azithromycin (125mg) for three days with the Flubendazole.

A story about Gloria.
I had a hen with a partially impacted crop I thought that I hadn't been able to get rid of with the usaul techniques. I took the hen to Gloria. Gloria felt the hens crop on the inside with a solid flexible tube and thought the crop was okay and there was a blockage in the proventriculus. It's quite common apparently, often a large piece of corn stuck where the proventriculus narrows at the top. Gloria got a slightly wider diameter hollow flexible tube and fed the tube into the hens crop and out the other end into the proventriculus, applied a bit of sucktion at the end with a syringe and start pulling gung out. It took a while, a small pea sized bit at a time pouring some water into the hen each time the tube came out. You could tell it was working because the hen started adjusting her crop and making that goose like movement to get things moving down. Gloria is still fishing while all this is going on.:th

Those of you that have had to give medication by beak will know that just getting the beak open and the syringe in place can be difficult with the more fiesty chickens. If you've crop fed you'll know that sideways flick of the head that has the tube flying out of the hens mouth. Gloria dealt with all that and found the exit to the crop and dragged stuff out while I did my best to keep the hen still. Yes I was impressed.

I took Gloria's advice.
I got some Azithromycin. I can't say how.:duc
Azithromycin encounters less bacterial resistance than many of the other common antibiotics and is more suitable for digestive tract infections than say amoxicilllin. This makes it suitable for short doasge periods apparently which will hopefully avoid the eating and crop problems I've experienced before.

Todays samples (day two with antibiotic). No wet patches, mostly solid with urates showing white with the droppings.
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Daytime deposit by Carbon. It wasn't as grre as it looks in the picture.
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Carbon eating.
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Everybody eating.
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Just Henry eating. He eats more of the commercial feed and grains than the others mainly because if he does any foraging he gives what he finds away. He's much happier with the 0.9% calcium feed.
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Fewer balance problems evidnet today with Carbon. Not ideal weather to observe in due to them not being out for the entire time. She's eating well. Hopefully she'll get over this.
I also hope this helps Carbon, it seems like it will. I am dealing with something that seems a bit similar with two of my molting four years old ex-batts. I am not ready to treat them.with antibiotics though, notably because they already had health issue before that.

Azythromycin is the antibiotic my vet has been prescribing for wounds and bumblefoot.
My partner asked her why not amoxicillin for a potential staph infection and she said both because there is a real problem with growing resistance for amoxicillin in Europe , which means she has to declare it every time she prescribes it, and because everyone is afraid of a potential major health crisis due to amoxicillin shortenage.

I don't know in what form you got hold of it (azythromycin ) but what I got is a child medication, a suspension that doesn't keep and must be thrown away after treatment. So there is no way to get it from someone else or keep some for later. And when I got prescribed amoxicillin+ clavunic acid for my cat, the clinic cut out the exact number of pills required. I didn't even have a spare one in case he spilled one out !
 
Chippy and Pinecone
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Quick update regarding Lady Gaga and his reaction to the chicks. I'm absolutely amazed by his actions. Yesterday, just a few hours after being on the ground, four to five of the chicks decided to do some exploring, they went behind a wooden plank and got lost. They started calling for mom. Lady Gaga came running, and stood close by keeping guard. One of the chicks found Cruella, and then the rest followed. Today he has been calling all of them to food. He's just below 6 months of age and is stepping into his role so well
 
Okay, so another mite question: I’ve heard that Elector PSP is supposed to be effective for mites and lice of all types. The down side is that it is super pricey ($160). The active ingredient is Spinozad.

I was at Lowe’s looking for a puffer to use to try to get permethrin powder on chicken butts more easily when I spotted this:
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It comes as a dust or a spray, but isn’t marketed for use on animals. However, I did the math for the dilution from the concentrated Elector PSP, and it comes out to the same dilution as this bottle, which is only $12.99.

What are thoughts on this being safe for use off label since it’s the same dilution?

Tax for mites:
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It’s so hard to capture the prettybeetle green on Smiley’s feathers, but she’s pretty anyway.
 
Okay, so another mite question: I’ve heard that Elector PSP is supposed to be effective for mites and lice of all types. The down side is that it is super pricey ($160). The active ingredient is Spinozad.

I was at Lowe’s looking for a puffer to use to try to get permethrin powder on chicken butts more easily when I spotted this: View attachment 3682888View attachment 3682890It comes as a dust or a spray, but isn’t marketed for use on animals. However, I did the math for the dilution from the concentrated Elector PSP, and it comes out to the same dilution as this bottle, which is only $12.99.

What are thoughts on this being safe for use off label since it’s the same dilution?

Tax for mites:
View attachment 3682894View attachment 3682895It’s so hard to capture the prettybeetle green on Smiley’s feathers, but she’s pretty anyway.
@casportpony did the math and probably remember the particulars
 

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