Shadrach's Ex Battery and Rescued chickens thread.

[Shadrach]

I've been reading a bit, more recipies than anything else about what we and chickens can and can't digest. I've got all these grains and pulses that need eating,
I had believed that humans couldn't digest many of the wheat varieties along with a number of other grains and pulses unless the were cooked or fermented.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/scien...?ref=pdf_download&fr=RR-2&rr=82ffcb2d2bbb496d

An interesting advantage for the chickens when it comes to digestion is the Ceca organs. While digestion is done by enzymes for the bulk of digested material, the ceca ferments what the enzymes had difficulty digesting.

An article on the chickens digestive sytem.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1056617119303939

 

[Shadrach]

Look at Dig's tailfeathers!

Sushhhhhh! We are trying not to notice, for Henry's sake. He's just got a couple of stumps currently.

 

[Shadrach]

Made me think of this:

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It is a bit like that here in Bristol. Mums get on the buses with their prams and not much more than babies and stick a mobile phone in the babies hand.

 

[fuzzi]

Sushhhhhh! We are trying not to notice, for Henry's sake. He's just got a couple of stumps currently.

Henry has the equivalent of a comb-over?

 

[Molpet]

But I don’t know what Blackstrap is

https://www.dhampurgreen.com/blogs/...ence-between-molasses-and-blackstrap-molasses

 

[MrsNorthie]

Sushhhhhh! We are trying not to notice, for Henry's sake. He's just got a couple of stumps currently.

Blue is a bit annoyed that Spuds Tail feathers grew back faster than his.. The Boys are starting to look quite regal..

 

[tranquiliti]

I had believed that humans couldn't digest many of the wheat varieties along with a number of other grains and pulses unless the were cooked or fermented.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/scien...?ref=pdf_download&fr=RR-2&rr=82ffcb2d2bbb496d

“In order that the starch should be in an appetizing form, it was eaten as a constituent of a frozen pudding. This was palatable and the subjects were able to eat it in fairly large quantities.”​

If the only nutrient to break down is starch, and if humans always eat the crops in the form of pleasurable ‘frozen pudding.’

 

[Perris]

An interesting advantage for the chickens when it comes to digestion is the Ceca organs. While digestion is done by enzymes for the bulk of digested material, the ceca ferments what the enzymes had difficulty digesting.

which is why it matters that research that is done on birds that have had their caeca removed before the trial (apparently normal practice) is of dubious relevance to entire, normal birds.
e.g. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0032579119415071
quote from the abstract "Amino acid, gross energy, lipid, and fiber analyses were carried out, and true metabolizable energy and true amino acid digestibility were determined with adult cecectomized cockerels. "
And from the text, methods section "For TMEn and amino acid digestibility assessment, cecectomized Single Comb White Leghorn roosters, 60 wk of age, were kept in individual cages ... Cecectomy was performed at 20 wk of age according to the procedures of Parsons (1985)."

 

[Perris]

It is a bit like that here in Bristol. Mums get on the buses with their prams and not much more than babies and stick a mobile phone in the babies hand.

while dads are where, doing what?

 

[Perris]

But I don’t know what Blackstrap is.

It's called Treacle here.