Shadrach's Ex Battery and Rescued chickens thread.

[Ladies-Eight]

Being outdoors and using our own imaginations for entertainment. I laugh when I hear some 20 something complaining how ignorant some oldie is because they don't use social media or have smart phones, because I am thinking to myself, those that grew up the way we did, will survive if it hits the fan, while most of these 'kids' will be in the fetal position sucking their thumbs. (and a lot of oldies can be pretty technically savvy too. ;-) )

AMEN!!!

 

[Ladies-Eight]

Ex Batts good evening one and all!

Temperature is in the 60s and cloudy.

Have a great day!

@Shadrach Don't think about not coming back as I have learned so much from you.

Take care of yourself: plenty of liquids, soups, some over the counter meds.

Lots of prayers and good thoughts for you.

Keep us posted on your recoveery.

@MaryJanet Please stay with your plan of treatment lots of liquids, soups, over the counter meds.

Lots of prayers for you.

Keep us posted on your recovery.

 

[fuzzi]

I don't really think placing a dog with adopters that don't know anything about the influence on behaviour its genetic makeup has and/or how to deal with it is the best they can do. Providing zero resources to help these people is also iffy. What gets me the most irritated is descriptions like "snuggler trapped in a giant's body". That gives absolutely zero insight as to what this dog will be like. I'd much rather they'd be transparent from the beginning, even if it means adopting out to less homes. At least those homes know what they're adopting. I definitely acknowledge that the beginner(s) should also do their part, but you don't really know where to start, or what to trust, when you're left completely on your own. Don't get me wrong, there are some absolutely amazing rescues out there (quite a lot actually), but just like terrible breeders (although not as bad because they're not actually in it for pure profit), providing no support for the animal you're placing is very irresponsible. The last point is a valid concern, although a responsible breeder should be able to take the dog back if the first home doesn't work out, and place it with someone willing and knowledgeable enough to keep it. But is nuanced, and I am simply not involved enough in the breed communities to comment any further. Tax for dog talkView attachment 3701176

I have a friend who used to do rescue. She got out. She had a foster who had been abused. The dog occasionally overreacted to stimulus. Once she hurt her cat, and a second time her daughter's hand was damaged trying to prevent a dog fight. My friend tried to get the dog placed with someone who could work with the issues. The rescue organization was planning on just adopting the dog with someone else, no disclosures! As my friend said, they're not addressing the problem, and foisting the dog on an unsuspecting family could result in another injury, maybe of a child. She still has the dog, said 95% of the time she's a good dog, and she'll keep her for the remainder of her life. The rescue is not looking out for the welfare of the dog and potential families, but is instead tightly focused on finding a home, any home. Not good.

Tax: (Samuel)

 

[kcan2]

And you better get back here, sooner or later!

Agree! R&R means Recuperation Required by all Shadrach's BYC friends, near and far! Get very well and strong soon!


>>Edited to add some nest tax. Rooster thinks he is helping by taking up primary real estate in the turnaround area.

 

[MrsNorthie]

I don't really think placing a dog with adopters that don't know anything about the influence on behaviour its genetic makeup has and/or how to deal with it is the best they can do. Providing zero resources to help these people is also iffy. What gets me the most irritated is descriptions like "snuggler trapped in a giant's body". That gives absolutely zero insight as to what this dog will be like. I'd much rather they'd be transparent from the beginning, even if it means adopting out to less homes. At least those homes know what they're adopting. I definitely acknowledge that the beginner(s) should also do their part, but you don't really know where to start, or what to trust, when you're left completely on your own. Don't get me wrong, there are some absolutely amazing rescues out there (quite a lot actually), but just like terrible breeders (although not as bad because they're not actually in it for pure profit), providing no support for the animal you're placing is very irresponsible. The last point is a valid concern, although a responsible breeder should be able to take the dog back if the first home doesn't work out, and place it with someone willing and knowledgeable enough to keep it. But is nuanced, and I am simply not involved enough in the breed communities to comment any further. Tax for dog talkView attachment 3701176

Unfortunately, irresponsible people have led to shelters being over crowded and dogs confined in a shelter situation can decline rapidly, so even no-kill shelters end up having to euthanize a lot of dogs. So I think, they try really hard to find homes, and in my experiences, they try to get people to spend time with the dogs, introduce children, bring in other dogs someone may have at home and introduce them in a supervised environment and let's face it, there are a lot of people who claim to know it all, and will lie to get a dog they think will make a good accessory.

Most of the employees with limited experience, earning just a little over minimum wage, some of them, animal lovers, and they get to see all manner of suffering and dishonest people, it is just not a great situation.

 

[MrsNorthie]

I have a friend who used to do rescue. She got out. She had a foster who had been abused. The dog occasionally overreacted to stimulus. Once she hurt her cat, and a second time her daughter's hand was damaged trying to prevent a dog fight. My friend tried to get the dog placed with someone who could work with the issues. The rescue organization was planning on just adopting the dog with someone else, no disclosures! As my friend said, they're not addressing the problem, and foisting the dog on an unsuspecting family could result in another injury, maybe of a child. She still has the dog, said 95% of the time she's a good dog, and she'll keep her for the remainder of her life. The rescue is not looking out for the welfare of the dog and potential families, but is instead tightly focused on finding a home, any home. Not good.

Tax: (Samuel)
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A lot of the rescues, are just regular people, with no specialized training. I have seen several that take monetary donations and then adopt dogs on the free for low fees from the shelters, then adopt them out for really high fees and others where they really work with the dogs to get them used to a normal family life. Like with anything else, some are good, some are bad. The bad ones, unfortunately, get dogs killed.

 

[MaryJanet]

Get well soon too, MaryJanet.
Take your time to heal from this nasty bug***s.

Thank you. I think it will take a while to get clear of it.

But the boredom is getting to me. I may have to do a little working from home just to cheer myself up

 

[MaryJanet]

Ex Batts good evening one and all!

Temperature is in the 60s and cloudy.

Have a great day!

@Shadrach Don't think about not coming back as I have learned so much from you.

Take care of yourself: plenty of liquids, soups, some over the counter meds.

Lots of prayers and good thoughts for you.

Keep us posted on your recoveery.

@MaryJanet Please stay with your plan of treatment lots of liquids, soups, over the counter meds.

Lots of prayers for you.

Keep us posted on your recovery.

Thank you. The cold n flu tablets have most symptoms under control but I'm still testing positive and feverish.

 

[fluffycrow]

I have a friend who used to do rescue. She got out. She had a foster who had been abused. The dog occasionally overreacted to stimulus. Once she hurt her cat, and a second time her daughter's hand was damaged trying to prevent a dog fight. My friend tried to get the dog placed with someone who could work with the issues. The rescue organization was planning on just adopting the dog with someone else, no disclosures! As my friend said, they're not addressing the problem, and foisting the dog on an unsuspecting family could result in another injury, maybe of a child. She still has the dog, said 95% of the time she's a good dog, and she'll keep her for the remainder of her life. The rescue is not looking out for the welfare of the dog and potential families, but is instead tightly focused on finding a home, any home. Not good.

Tax: (Samuel)
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This is exactly the outcome I've seen happening in some shelters. It's sad. I've seen people getting attacked from their own LGD mixes, because no one told them anything about the dog, maybe an "oh, yeah, those guard sheep flocks". We ought to do better by these dogs, and their people

 

[fluffycrow]

Unfortunately, irresponsible people have led to shelters being over crowded and dogs confined in a shelter situation can decline rapidly, so even no-kill shelters end up having to euthanize a lot of dogs. So I think, they try really hard to find homes, and in my experiences, they try to get people to spend time with the dogs, introduce children, bring in other dogs someone may have at home and introduce them in a supervised environment and let's face it, there are a lot of people who claim to know it all, and will lie to get a dog they think will make a good accessory.

Most of the employees with limited experience, earning just a little over minimum wage, some of them, animal lovers, and they get to see all manner of suffering and dishonest people, it is just not a great situation.

Absolutely. A lot of shelters here trap and place in their systems (almost) feral dog packs. We have loads of them. In my opinion they should focus on animals that LIKE being pets, and leave the feral dogs for each municipality to deal with, since they have a spay and neuter programme, then returning the dogs back to their territory.