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SC, It is always a personal decision on whether to vaccinate. Like I stated earlier no fowl can be on my farm if it has not been vaccinated for Mareks. Nothing any more stressful than seeing half grown fowl trying to walk on one leg or one wing hanging to the ground and walking on it. I believe all the Major Hatcheries vaccinate the chicks.I have been to a few Seminars at MSU and that is the first thing they say we should be doing. If you start having Leucosis in your fowl you will wish they were vaccinated. Don
 
She's got enough on her plate to deal with without adding crazy Internet chicken people to the mix!
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I quickly candled my eggs for development last night. I didn't even touch them just held the flashlight up to them. Air cells are HORRIBLE! Poor things. But 11/14 were developing. The few that I really wanted have started. But some development looks behind others. May be red rings. This is the first batch I'm actually going to wait the full 7 days to start tilting. There is fluid inside the air cells! What is that??

Sorry to hear they look so bad, but hopefully they will straighten out. I don't know why there would be fluid in the air cells. If you didn't pick them up, are you sure it wasn't just shadow?? ( I'm grasping for any good possibility!). Can I ask why you aren't going to tilt them until day 7? I'm just thinking maybe a little movement might be better than sitting perfectly still all that time. Not a lot of movement, just a little. I know you have researched shipped eggs and I have not, at all. So I'm not questioning your judgment, I'm just wondering what the theory is behind no movement.

Emailed with my sebright contact yesterday. She is collecting eggs for me this week, and I will pick them up next Monday. I should be able to pick up the incubator on Sunday or Monday, but it will be late before I return home Monday evening (almost 3 hour drive, each way... after working all day!), and will need time for the incubator to stabilize, so I will probably set on Tuesday. I'm so excited to hatch again!
 
Don, when I first started hatching my own chicks, I debated whether to vaccinate for Mareks or not. I actually did do a lot of reading, and it seems the opinion of whether to vaccinate or not is divided right down the middle. I chose not to, not out of laziness, but because my flock had never had issues. I read compelling debate for both sides, and went with the no vaccination policy. I would have no problem vaccinating chicks, but there seemed to be a lot of people saying that vaccinating a flock with no problems was actually introducing a problem that otherwise wouldn't have been there. I have a totally closed flock, I don't take in any outside birds. I can see why you would have to vaccinate so heavily when you are showing, and constantly around birds from all over the country, but do you really think it's necessary for a closed backyard flock?

This was my question too. Also, if you plan on selling a lot of chicks you are hatching, it seems like it would just be costing you more money. But it could be a good selling point that chicks are already vaccinated. I've been reading on it too. I'm debating on doing it with this next hatch, as I will most likely be keeping any that make it to hatch.
 
SC, It is always a personal decision on whether to vaccinate. Like I stated earlier no fowl can be on my farm if it has not been vaccinated for Mareks. Nothing any more stressful than seeing half grown fowl trying to walk on one leg or one wing hanging to the ground and walking on it. I believe all the Major Hatcheries vaccinate the chicks.I have been to a few Seminars at MSU and that is the first thing they say we should be doing. If you start having Leucosis in your fowl you will wish they were vaccinated. Don
I totally understand what you are saying, and I agree. If I ever have an outbreak, I will be smacking myself for not vaccinating, but I leaned a little more to the side of not vaccinating because that means those birds are then carriers, right? Then introducing those birds to unvaccinated birds could be a problem
 
Absolutely. I'm insane enough without turning Mr. Flock on at home
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I hate to hear that about your air cells, but 11/14 is good. Hopefully things will settle down before lockdown
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Sorry to hear they look so bad, but hopefully they will straighten out. I don't know why there would be fluid in the air cells. If you didn't pick them up, are you sure it wasn't just shadow?? ( I'm grasping for any good possibility!). Can I ask why you aren't going to tilt them until day 7? I'm just thinking maybe a little movement might be better than sitting perfectly still all that time. Not a lot of movement, just a little. I know you have researched shipped eggs and I have not, at all. So I'm not questioning your judgment, I'm just wondering what the theory is behind no movement.

Emailed with my sebright contact yesterday. She is collecting eggs for me this week, and I will pick them up next Monday. I should be able to pick up the incubator on Sunday or Monday, but it will be late before I return home Monday evening (almost 3 hour drive, each way... after working all day!), and will need time for the incubator to stabilize, so I will probably set on Tuesday. I'm so excited to hatch again!

Since you'll be setting a week behind me, we should both be hatching on the day after Labor Day.
 
Sorry to hear they look so bad, but hopefully they will straighten out.  I don't know why there would be fluid in the air cells.  If you didn't pick them up, are you sure it wasn't just shadow??  ( I'm grasping for any good possibility!).  Can I ask why you aren't going to tilt them until day 7?  I'm just thinking maybe a little movement might be better than sitting perfectly still all that time.  Not a lot of movement, just a little.  I know you have researched shipped eggs and I have not, at all.  So I'm not questioning your judgment, I'm just wondering what the theory is behind no movement.  

Emailed with my sebright contact yesterday.  She is collecting eggs for me this week, and I will pick them up next Monday.  I should be able to pick up the incubator on Sunday or Monday, but it will be late before I return home Monday evening (almost 3 hour drive, each way... after working all day!), and will need time for the incubator to stabilize, so I will probably set on Tuesday.  I'm so excited to hatch again!


The Brinsea will stabilize really quickly. I put Solo's egg in, then turned it on. (Not recommended, but it worked).

(Edited for typos now that I've had my coffee.)
 
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Since you'll be setting a week behind me, we should both be hatching on the day after Labor Day.

Awesome! So you are setting yours today? How many? I hadn't even looked at the calendar, but that should work out nicely!

The Brinsea will stabilize really quickly. I put Solo' egg in, then turned it on. ( not recommended, but it worked).

Nice! I expected it would. I'm already too anxious to wait very long anyway!
 

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