She said/He said Who's right? Who's wrong? No one!

[lazy gardener]

Output management... love it!!

Speaking of integrating... My bantam cochins are in a pen right beside my LO's, with just wire between them. I let the LO's out in the evenings when I am home, but the cochins don't get out much. They have a lot more room/bird, and the LO's are a little more cramped.... plus, I had been afraid if one of those little ones got loose, I'd never catch it! But yesterday, I let them out. The LO's were still very mean to the cochins. The cochins ran from them. Armand did try to stand up to a few, but he would still eventually run. So after watching for a few minutes, I separated them again. Would it just take time, and I just need to let them be, or are there times that its just impossible. I'll never have them penned together, but it would be nice if they could free-range at the same time occasionally. Maybe I'm just over-protective?

How old are these birds? Do they have a minimum of 4 s.f. in the coop, and 10 s.f. in the run/bird. The LO definitely have their size going for them. You could let them out to free range together... if they are old enough for that. Or you could make a bantam sized door between their 2 areas, and open it so the bantams can come and go at will. You'll have to supervise to be sure the bantams can figure out how to dive back through their door. Perhaps put black tape around it to make it more visible... They'll pick on the bantams. That's chicken nature. But as long as the bantams have escape routes, and the LO are not singling one out and ganging up on her, and as long as they are not drawing blood, it should be ok. I like to give LOTS of treats when I'm integrating, and spread those treats far and wide.

 

[FridayYet]

Oh! You're thinking shipping difference.  Well, I think I should do another set, and put the shoe box (another pair! Yeah!) out in my work shop, which is not temperature controlled.  Then it would go through heat/cold fluctuations, like it would do during transportation.  Who knows where the postal service keeps them, and what kind of conditions! 

I did see the olive oil comment.  I saw a prepper show once where they wiped eggs with olive oil and said they lasted much longer that way.  But it seems like that would fill the pores too much for an egg to be incubated.  I'll have to ponder that further...

Since I live at a moderately high altitude, I worry about gas exchange through the membrane and shell during incubation. Would hate to use anything that would make it worse.

 

[AmyLynn2374]

So I had chicks that hatched a little over a week ago before this last hatch and I have one large-long brooder. I wanted to brood all together but I know the older ones would pick on the newborns. I put a piece of glass up in the middle of the brooder and put the light above it, so it would shine on both sides of the glass equally. Then put two sets of food/water dishes on each end that was cooler. In order for the chicks to stay warm they had to sleep right next to each other on either side of the glass. Well after about 3 days, I took the glass out tonight. I thought that the older ones would keep to themselves and the younger ones would do the same but nope. They are all intertwined and sleeping snuggled up together! So happy for such a smooth transition. And my little assist baby has turned out to be the runt of the litter. She's half the size of her hatch mates! I'm sure it's a girl!

That's great!

Woah. . . I never thought this thread would teach me so much about fire arms.

, guise.

I see you, Ravyn.

Good luck with lockdown and hatch E1. And jic I never actually said it, I am really happy your hatch went so well, Ruby. It was a nice parade, too.

Now I have read and must go back to bed!

That;'s just wrong! Pure evil!


Well I went to open my coop this morning and check on my momma broody and all three of her eggs have hatched and from what I can see all 3 are black/gray. lol I got an adorable video of one of the babies that came out to bite momma's wattles...lol
Now my other broody is due the 22nd, but she only has 1 or 2 eggs that are actually developing under her. And no more broodies, I don't care what they want!

 

[WVduckchick]

How old are these birds? Do they have a minimum of 4 s.f. in the coop, and 10 s.f. in the run/bird. The LO definitely have their size going for them. You could let them out to free range together... if they are old enough for that. Or you could make a bantam sized door between their 2 areas, and open it so the bantams can come and go at will. You'll have to supervise to be sure the bantams can figure out how to dive back through their door. Perhaps put black tape around it to make it more visible... They'll pick on the bantams. That's chicken nature. But as long as the bantams have escape routes, and the LO are not singling one out and ganging up on her, and as long as they are not drawing blood, it should be ok. I like to give LOTS of treats when I'm integrating, and spread those treats far and wide.

The LO's are 24 weeks, the bantams are 17 weeks. I may cut another small door on the outside of the small run, instead of between them (they don't need to get into each other's runs). I left the big door open, so they could get back in, but of course the big ones followed them in. So a small door could work well. I only have the 2 little bantams, Armand and Katherine. I have noticed that I have 1 or 2 LO's that are real biotches though! They even make the boys run. Thanks for reminding me of the small door. I think I'll try that first.
And yes, they have plenty of room in their runs. The 2 are in a run that is 16' x 8', and the older 9 are in a run that is about 16' x 16'

Well I went to open my coop this morning and check on my momma broody and all three of her eggs have hatched and from what I can see all 3 are black/gray. lol I got an adorable video of one of the babies that came out to bite momma's wattles...lol

Now my other broody is due the 22nd, but she only has 1 or 2 eggs that are actually developing under her. And no more broodies, I don't care what they want!

Pictures, please!!!

And congrats to you and your broody!

 

[meganhundley]

I wonder if a broody hatched snake eggs if they would ever go broody again?

 

[meganhundley]

Another egg quit on me last night. The more expensive 1's seem to be fairing alot better. I've only had 1 of them quit so far (knock on wood). Her eggs look a little different too, the shells are harder to see through amd some are more of a light reddish tan color whereas the others are white and very easy to candle. I think the cheaper breeder's hens we're young or something. Alot of her eggs were a little mis-shapen, not real bad but I did notice some of them looked a little off. But out of 18 from her I have 8 left, the more expensive 1's I have 10 out of 12 left. If I have to loose eggs I'd rather it be the cheaper 1's, lol.

 

[RubyNala97]

Oh! You're thinking shipping difference.  Well, I think I should do another set, and put the shoe box (another pair! Yeah!) out in my work shop, which is not temperature controlled.  Then it would go through heat/cold fluctuations, like it would do during transportation.  Who knows where the postal service keeps them, and what kind of conditions! 

I did see the olive oil comment.  I saw a prepper show once where they wiped eggs with olive oil and said they lasted much longer that way.  But it seems like that would fill the pores too much for an egg to be incubated.  I'll have to ponder that further...

Putting it in the shed would be perfect!! I have not done any research on the olive oil, just thought it was interesting. I know it has anti-bacterial properties, though. When I got the pea eggs they were filthy and boy did they reek! I took a slightly damp paper towel and cleaned them. Don't know if it was enough to wipe the bloom off or not. But all but one hatched.

Output management... love it!! 

Speaking of integrating...  My bantam cochins are in a pen right beside my LO's, with just wire between them.  I let the LO's out in the evenings when I am home, but the cochins don't get out much.  They have a lot more room/bird, and the LO's are a little more cramped.... plus, I had been afraid if one of those little ones got loose, I'd never catch it!  But yesterday, I let them out.  The LO's were still very mean to the cochins.  The cochins ran from them.  Armand did try to stand up to a few, but he would still eventually run.  So after watching for a few minutes, I separated them again.  Would it just take time, and I just need to let them be, or are there times that its just impossible.  I'll never have them penned together, but it would be nice if they could free-range at the same time occasionally.  Maybe I'm just over-protective?

I know they are two different species but for almost a month, I kept the peachicks next to the LO's, only separated by some hardware cloth. I would try to do play dates with lots of treats and it was not happening. Lots of bullying from both ends.

That's great!

That;'s just wrong! Pure evil!

Now my other broody is due the 22nd, but she only has 1 or 2 eggs that are actually developing under her. And no more broodies, I don't care what they want!

Better start reading up on breaking Broodies. Looks like it's contagious!! Congrats on the 3 babies. When she gets off the nest, check the egg with the wrong end pipper and see how the zip looks. Just curious.

 

[meganhundley]

I wanted to ask a ? though, alot of these eggs have really wispy looking veins, is that normal? I don't have anything to compare to as I couldn't really see the veining in the Welsummer eggs this early cause they were so dark. It's weird looking, the veining is really thin and wispy looking except right around the embryo where there are some bigger thicker veins.

 

[RubyNala97]

I wanted to ask a ? though, alot of these eggs have really wispy looking veins, is that normal? I don't have anything to compare to as I couldn't really see the veining in the Welsummer eggs this early cause they were so dark. It's weird looking, the veining is really thin and wispy looking except right around the embryo where there are some bigger thicker veins.

It's hard to be sure without a pic but that sounds normal to me!!

 

[kwhites634]

That's great!

That;'s just wrong! Pure evil!

Now my other broody is due the 22nd, but she only has 1 or 2 eggs that are actually developing under her. And no more broodies, I don't care what they want!

You don't like clowns? I've heard/read about lots of folks who don't like them at all, but I've never understood why. Of course, I grew up with Clarabelle on the Howdy Doody Show; maybe that's why they don't bother me.