She said/He said Who's right? Who's wrong? No one!

[WVduckchick]

P.S. Never had partial zips happen in the Brinsea. Only in my old Chinese knockoff and in my styrofoam FI that I use as a Hatcher now.

 

[AmyLynn2374]

Okay folks, I need some insight on what is going wrong, what to do now and what to do better next time. I ran a low humidity until lockdown and since then it's been high, maybe too high for too long. I have chicks zipping and then stopping. I assisted one this morning and 30 mins ago another one. Glad I did on both. This last one was pushing but was stuck - the membrane was attached in several places still and on one side it has pushed its foot through it and it was stuck, so it was stuck and had no leverage. I cut the membrane a little, and especially around the foot and it looks good. I was afraid it would be gluey so I gave it a quick bath and put it back to dry and fluff out. The two that I took out a couple of hours ago look ok, but they were a bit matted, I gave them wipe downs and a gentle blow dry before putting in the brooder. Can anyone tell me why this is happening and what to do about it? I still have 7-8 eggs to go.
TIA!

ps: I think it's clear I'm on Amy Lynn's team, though I forget at the moment what color that is. I can't see me not helping a fully formed chick who is trying to survive, to get out of the shell- especially if it's something I did to cause it.

Red team rocks!!! lol I don't usually have problems with my zippers. This hatch i had two that I had to help after they started zipping down instead of across but both were the silkies with the big ole vaulted heads...lol The first one I couldn't understand whey he couldn't get his head up after I popped the cap off the egg and I had to break some egg below his head, then once I got his head out I said yup I understand...lol This is him: (He happens to be my happy feet dancer that I took the pic of....lol)

I don't have the Advance but I have an Eco and I love it to death. So much so that part of my tax return might be buying me an Eco 40 and my 20 will retire to a hatcher - unless I manage to overstuff the 40 like I have managed to do with the 20 spectacularly this week. Somehow I need to get 29 duck eggs and 12+ chicken eggs in there. Wish me luck because I'm going to need it

It'll thin out once I can do candling in a few days and see what developing but until then I'm gonna have to get really creative since I loaned out my other incubator and have nowhere else to put these.

You'll have them both filled and running!!

 

[Lacrystol]

Okay folks, I need some insight on what is going wrong, what to do now and what to do better next time. I ran a low humidity until lockdown and since then it's been high, maybe too high for too long. I have chicks zipping and then stopping. I assisted one this morning and 30 mins ago another one. Glad I did on both. This last one was pushing but was stuck - the membrane was attached in several places still and on one side it has pushed its foot through it and it was stuck, so it was stuck and had no leverage. I cut the membrane a little, and especially around the foot and it looks good. I was afraid it would be gluey so I gave it a quick bath and put it back to dry and fluff out. The two that I took out a couple of hours ago look ok, but they were a bit matted, I gave them wipe downs and a gentle blow dry before putting in the brooder. Can anyone tell me why this is happening and what to do about it? I still have 7-8 eggs to go.
TIA!

ps: I think it's clear I'm on Amy Lynn's team, though I forget at the moment what color that is. I can't see me not helping a fully formed chick who is trying to survive, to get out of the shell- especially if it's something I did to cause it.

If they are getting stuck, what i would do it Spray them, give them a good misting to help loosen them up a bit. What is the humidity at??

 

[Lacrystol]

Am I the only one around today obsessing about my hatch

Do any of you have the Brinsea Octagon Advance? If I pull the trigger today I may have by Monday

Seeing all these chicks zip and stop is making me crazy!

When you say stop are they just stopping as far as progressing out of the shell or are they dying off?

 

[Lacrystol]

I don't have the Advance but I have an Eco and I love it to death. So much so that part of my tax return might be buying me an Eco 40 and my 20 will retire to a hatcher - unless I manage to overstuff the 40 like I have managed to do with the 20 spectacularly this week. Somehow I need to get 29 duck eggs and 12+ chicken eggs in there. Wish me luck because I'm going to need it

It'll thin out once I can do candling in a few days and see what developing but until then I'm gonna have to get really creative since I loaned out my other incubator and have nowhere else to put these.

My Hoover finally died after 5 years, I am now using my very first homemade bator, I LOVE this thing, it has always been very dependable right now I have one chick out and I'm patiently waiting for my loner call duck to get out. GRRR so frustrating because the chick whipps out and the duck TAKES FOR EVER.

 

[BYC910]

Okay folks, I need some insight on what is going wrong, what to do now and what to do better next time. I ran a low humidity until lockdown and since then it's been high, maybe too high for too long. I have chicks zipping and then stopping. I assisted one this morning and 30 mins ago another one. Glad I did on both. This last one was pushing but was stuck - the membrane was attached in several places still and on one side it has pushed its foot through it and it was stuck, so it was stuck and had no leverage. I cut the membrane a little, and especially around the foot and it looks good. I was afraid it would be gluey so I gave it a quick bath and put it back to dry and fluff out. The two that I took out a couple of hours ago look ok, but they were a bit matted, I gave them wipe downs and a gentle blow dry before putting in the brooder. Can anyone tell me why this is happening and what to do about it? I still have 7-8 eggs to go.
TIA!

ps: I think it's clear I'm on Amy Lynn's team, though I forget at the moment what color that is. I can't see me not helping a fully formed chick who is trying to survive, to get out of the shell- especially if it's something I did to cause it.

I'm really starting to think that its heat that causes the chicks to be sticky .I'm trying to hold my temperature down to 99 degrees after two hatches in these old GQF cabinets which were both early . they hatched on day 19 and 20 a little better than 50% hatch rate . the humidity was 28 to 33 percent for incubation and 65 to 75 for hatch . I'm getting to lock down with very large amounts of fluid in the top of the egg and if they hatch they are sticky some pip and can't zip stuck at the pip hole . every thing is calibrated . Mid day heat is giving me fits too. should be at home for most of this set . but have already seen temps go to 101 mid day . You wouldn't that for a brief amount of time it would make that big a difference. I think it does .

 

[Lacrystol]

I'm really starting to think that its heat that causes the chicks to be sticky .I'm trying to hold my temperature down to 99 degrees after two hatches in these old  GQF cabinets which were both early . they hatched on day 19 and 20 a little better than 50% hatch rate . the humidity was 28 to 33 percent for incubation and 65 to 75 for hatch . I'm getting to lock down with very large amounts of fluid in the top of the egg and if they hatch they are sticky some pip and can't zip stuck at the pip hole . every thing is calibrated . Mid day heat is giving me fits too.  should be at home for most of this set . but have already seen temps go to 101 mid day . You wouldn't that for a brief amount of time  it would make that big a difference.   I think it does .

do u have a lot of rain where u are??

 

[AmyLynn2374]

I'm really starting to think that its heat that causes the chicks to be sticky .I'm trying to hold my temperature down to 99 degrees after two hatches in these old GQF cabinets which were both early . they hatched on day 19 and 20 a little better than 50% hatch rate . the humidity was 28 to 33 percent for incubation and 65 to 75 for hatch . I'm getting to lock down with very large amounts of fluid in the top of the egg and if they hatch they are sticky some pip and can't zip stuck at the pip hole . every thing is calibrated . Mid day heat is giving me fits too. should be at home for most of this set . but have already seen temps go to 101 mid day . You wouldn't that for a brief amount of time it would make that big a difference. I think it does .

I find my sticky spots usually are on the ones that pip and take the longest to progress to hatch. And usually it's the head and neck where the air hits through the pip hole, and you know I run generally around 75% at lockdown

 

[BYC910]

do u have a lot of rain where u are??

I find my sticky spots usually are on the ones that pip and take the longest to progress to hatch. And usually it's the head and neck where the air hits through the pip hole, and you know I run generally around 75% at lockdown

We have or fair share of rain it has been a very wet winter and spring . I run completely dry and the humidity stays 28% to 35 % there is a lot of close to the surface underground water here and relative humidity is on the average 65%.I live at the head of a valley where the river forms .prevailing winds are from the northwest and that is also the way the river runs . I am sure to high incubation heat is the biggest problem I now have. but it could possibly be hatching heat as well .I say this because of the large fluid content of the eggs at the end of incubation at lockdown also I had pips on the eighteenth day when I went to lock down

High heat they hatch early. These are not small eggs and some are sticky so much so I had to wash them after the assist . only the assisted chicks were sticky others hatched fine. Some were stuck and died at the pip site .I'll see if the lower temperature increases hatch rate .next hatch week after next and it's a bunch .

 

[Lacrystol]

I find my sticky spots usually are on the ones that pip and take the longest to progress to hatch. And usually it's the head and neck where the air hits through the pip hole, and you know I run generally around 75% at lockdown

That's a good point but If you have a fan it's going to pass right threw.