Should I remove her comb? Pecking injury with pics

[ella&clara]

Coccidiosis is caused by eimeria--there are 9 kinds in chickens. Corid would really be a better drug since it treats all 9 varieties. SMZ will only treat 2 of the worst kinds. SMZ is Sulmet, but I would get Corid. Dosage is 2 tsp of Corid liquid per gallon of water for 5-7 days. Corid powder dosage is 1.5 tsp per gallon of water. You can make smaller quantities, but change the water every day.

Thank you, just saw this. Off to get some. So am I correct that a typical "wormer" wouldn't have worked? Also, I'm thinking I don't have to treat the whole flock, just her, since she's the one with symptoms and it's something that's always in the environment?

 

[Eggcessive]

Eimeria Necatrix, E. Tenella, E. Acervulina, and E. Brunetti are the more common species of coccidiosis in cjickens. Here are some articles to read about coccidiosis, some of which are technical, but some are easier to understand:

http://www.merckmanuals.com/vet/poultry/coccidiosis/overview_of_coccidiosis_in_poultry.html
http://www1.agric.gov.ab.ca/$department/deptdocs.nsf/all/agdex4616
http://www.chickenvet.co.uk/health-and-common-diseases/coccidiosis/index.aspx
http://www.the-chicken-chick.com/2012/12/coccidiosis-what-backyard-chicken.html

 

[Eggcessive]

When there is cocci in the flock, it is usually best to treat all chickens at once. There is no harm in doing that, and there is no egg withdrawal time. Worming the flock is still something I would recommend afterward. When the Corid is completed in 5 days, you will want to give the flock some vitamins and probiotics for several days to replace vitamins lost, and to replace beneficial bacteria in the gut. Than I would worm them.

 

[ella&clara]

Coccidiosis caused by E. tenella first becomes noticeable at about three days after infection. Chickens droop, stop feeding, huddle together, and by the fourth day, blood begins to appear in the droppings. The greatest amount of blood appears by day five or six, and by the eighth or ninth day, the bird is either dead or on the way to recovery. Mortality is highest between the fourth and sixth days. Death may occur unexpectedly, owing to excessive blood loss. Birds that recover may develop a chronic illness as a result of a persistent cecal core. However, the core usually detaches itself by eight to ten days and is shed in the droppings.

Just read this. Thanks for the links. Is this usual? This chicken has been sick for awhile. I confess that I haven't been as attentive to her as I might have otherwise been, first because I thought she was just being her usual grouchy molting self and would get over it, and second because I had 17 broiler chicks that consumed much of my free time because I was trying to give them opportunities for pasture in November (while not freezing them to death or having them eaten by hawks). They are now in my freezer and doing fine I took a fecal sample to the vet Fri and it looked normal, as did the poo I removed today from her isolated cage. She will be 4 years old in February. I know, I should probably have sent her to the stew pot awhile ago, but I just couldn't. All of my chickens are 4 years old and are still laying enough eggs that we don't have to buy them except for a couple of weeks in the winter.

 

[ella&clara]

Another thought: everything I have read says this normally occurs in chicks, with older birds having developed immunity. She's been as free range as possible, within electronet fencing that I move regularly, and never, unless I am on vacation, in any sort of confined situation. The broiler chicks were on some of the same areas and didn't get sick (although they only lived for 6 weeks). She gets fresh grass and sunshine, and opportunities to dust bathe. I didn't give them medicated starter (although I got them 2 weeks old from a feed store so I don't know what they had then). So WHY does she have it? Am I doing something wrong with management? They certainly go back over used ground, but normally it's not until rain and sun have incorporated the tracks of previous chicken-tracks over the area. I try to have something green for them year round, and I give them plenty of room.

 

[Eggcessive]

She may have some problem going on with her immunity. By the way, most chickens have cocci or eimeria in their gut, but only when it is a lot, is it considered an active infection. They eventually build up an immunity to it. Did you just get the report back today on eimeria in the stool from last Friday? They should have told you Friday what was in the stool sample. When there has been a coccidia infection in the past or ongoing, there can be the risk of developing enteritis. So that is why cocci should be treated. Using a good probiotic such as Probios Powder or Gro2max in the water can help with intestinal immunity. Here is a link on bacterial enteritis, which like coccidia, is in the soil: http://www.thepoultrysite.com/diseaseinfo/101/necrotic-enteritis

 

[chicknmania]

Corid (Amprol) should work fine for the Cocci. If you want Sulmet, you can get it at a lot of feed mills. www.firststatevetsupply sells it on line, and I'm sure it can be found many places on line.

 

[ella&clara]

This is from the stool sample. I didn't take her into the vet. They had to send off the stool sample to get the results and couldn't tell me anything until I they got the results. She's getting a bit antsy in the dog crate, but I can't put her in with the others yet, and didn't want to put her in the separate pen outside because if there's ever a place with a high concentration of cocci, that's it She's on her second day of corid. I am afraid there's something going on with her immunity too. Perhaps after she began molting, it got cold, and the others began keeping her from the food she started losing weight, which allowed the cocci to get a foothold. We shall see. Thank you so much for all your help!!

 

[casportpony]

This is from the stool sample. I didn't take her into the vet. They had to send off the stool sample to get the results and couldn't tell me anything until I they got the results. She's getting a bit antsy in the dog crate, but I can't put her in with the others yet, and didn't want to put her in the separate pen outside because if there's ever a place with a high concentration of cocci, that's it

She's on her second day of corid. I am afraid there's something going on with her immunity too. Perhaps after she began molting, it got cold, and the others began keeping her from the food she started losing weight, which allowed the cocci to get a foothold. We shall see. Thank you so much for all your help!!

Is she drinking enough water? If not, you could give her a Corid drench. Do you have Corid powder of liquid? If you have the liquid you can give 0.1ml per pound orally once per day for two days. This would be in addition to her medicated water.

AS for the medicated water, everyone does it differently

, but I always assume it's a severe outbreak and treat per the mfg and fda recommendations which are listed below:

Corid Dosing Picture​

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More Corid info here:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/818879/updated-corid-and-amprol-amprolium-dosing

-Kathy

 

[chicknmania]

This is from the stool sample. I didn't take her into the vet. They had to send off the stool sample to get the results and couldn't tell me anything until I they got the results. She's getting a bit antsy in the dog crate, but I can't put her in with the others yet, and didn't want to put her in the separate pen outside because if there's ever a place with a high concentration of cocci, that's it

She's on her second day of corid. I am afraid there's something going on with her immunity too. Perhaps after she began molting, it got cold, and the others began keeping her from the food she started losing weight, which allowed the cocci to get a foothold. We shall see. Thank you so much for all your help!!

You can give the whole flock Corid, it will not hurt them, and you can still eat the eggs. Or so I've been told.