Show me your bielefelder crosses.

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I hope you’re right about Stanley being a pullet. Aside from the silver color, are there any other reasons you think it’s a pullet? I have been confident Stanley was a cockerel until recently when his comb didn’t redden. But the other cockerel, Solo, is much more dominant so I was thinking Stanley would just redden later.

Here is Stanley about 2 weeks ago. He’s the one to the left (rose type comb) in both photos. You can see how his comb was more similar in redness to Solo’s.

I think she’s a pullet because I see no signs that she’s a cockerel, not because of the silver color

 

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I think she’s a pullet because I see no signs that she’s a cockerel, not because of the silver color

Oh, I see.

If Stanley is a girl, does that mean the father is the silver rooster? Where’s if Stanley is male, the father could be either rooster?

The silver color throws me. I didn’t expect a silver chick from a Biele x black hen cross, but Solo has barring so his dad has to be the Biele. Perhaps the silver is from his SLW grandma. The mom is solid black with the tiniest bit of copper in the hackles. No silver at all.

 

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Oh, I see.

If Stanley is a girl, does that mean the father is the silver rooster? Where’s if Stanley is male, the father could be either rooster?

The silver color throws me. I didn’t expect a silver chick from a Biele x black hen cross, but Solo has barring so his dad has to be the Biele. Perhaps the silver is from his SLW grandma. The mom is solid black with the tiniest bit of copper in the hackles. No silver at all.

A male could get the silver gene from their mother, but if the mother is gold the father has to be the one with the gene. Looking back, Solo’s parentage doesn’t really make sense either, can you post pictures of the possible fathers? His barring is also very minimal, which is not what you usually see in a 1st generation cross

 

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A male could get the silver gene from their mother, but if the mother is gold the father has to be the one with the gene. Looking back, Solo’s parentage doesn’t really make sense either, can you post pictures of the possible fathers? His barring is also very minimal, which is not what you usually see in a 1st generation cross

Solo’s mom is Giblet, a BCM x RIR. So I don’t think there would be any silver gene.

Dad has to be Hans the Bielefelder due to the barring. I don’t have any other barred birds who could be parents. (I have biele hens but none were laying at the time of this hatch and their eggs are pretty distinct)

The other rooster at the time was Citronella, this silver mix-

More pics of Solo:

Stanley’s mom is Rumor, a BCM x SLW.

Here is more Stanley pics-

It’s always possible there were mix ups during hatch, but I’m fairly confident in the hens. And Stanley obviously has to come from a rose combed bird. And Solo resembles his mom & grandma in body shape, comb style, and personality. I have a big flock but can tell you what other layers I have.

 

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Stanley’s father is definitely the silver rooster, further confirmed by the fact that she has the blue gene from him, too. However, Solo still doesn’t make sense.

 

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Solo cannot be the offspring of that gold hen and the pure for gold bielefelder rooster. Are you sure one of his parents isn’t a bielefelder mix? Barring can sometimes be hidden under other patterns as well, such as white, splash, and blue can hide it pretty well.

 

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Solo cannot be the offspring of that gold hen and the pure for gold bielefelder rooster. Are you sure one of his parents isn’t a bielefelder mix?

My bielefelder mix rooster, MJ, left the flock he was with in early November. The eggs were collected in early to middle February. I don't think hens can store sperm that long. He is/was the only breeding age biele mix I had at that time.

Barring can sometimes be hidden under other patterns as well, such as white, splash, and blue can hide it pretty well.

Could I be mis-identifying the barring pattern? Maybe he's not barred, and his parents are the silver rooster and the black hen.

This is what I’m calling barring that I see in his hackles:

If it’s definitely barring, then I’m a little stumped on other possibilities.

The only other eggs I collected during this hatch from my BCM rooster's flock: a black Marans mix hen and a black w/ gold rose combed wyandoote mix hen. These are the hens who were also with the silver beile mix rooster back in November.

In the flock w/ the biele rooster and the silver rooster, I hatched 1 egg from each of these mixed hens:
-solid blue straight-comb wyandotte mix
-silver pea-type comb Easter Egger
-black rose-type comb BCM x silver laced wynadotte hen.
-black straight comb BCM x RIR hen.

Could one of these other hens have produced a bird that looks like Solo? (The EE is silver but I do have 1 silver pullet with a pea-type comb that could only have come from her egg).

 

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My bielefelder mix rooster, MJ, left the flock he was with in early November. The eggs were collected in early to middle February. I don't think hens can store sperm that long. He is/was the only breeding age biele mix I had at that time.

Could I be mis-identifying the barring pattern? Maybe he's not barred, and his parents are the silver rooster and the black hen.

This is what I’m calling barring that I see in his hackles:
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If it’s definitely barring, then I’m a little stumped on other possibilities.

The only other eggs I collected during this hatch from my BCM rooster's flock: a black Marans mix hen and a black w/ gold rose combed wyandoote mix hen. These are the hens who were also with the silver beile mix rooster back in November.

In the flock w/ the biele rooster and the silver rooster, I hatched 1 egg from each of these mixed hens:
-solid blue straight-comb wyandotte mix
-silver pea-type comb Easter Egger
-black rose-type comb BCM x silver laced wynadotte hen.
-black straight comb BCM x RIR hen.

Could one of these other hens have produced a bird that looks like Solo? (The EE is silver but I do have 1 silver pullet with a pea-type comb that could only have come from her egg).

It’s definitely weird how minimal the barring is. @Amer do you think this cockerel is barred?

When you say the other biele mixes weren’t at breeding age, how old were they?

 

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It’s definitely weird how minimal the barring is. @Amer do you think this cockerel is barred?

When you say the other biele mixes weren’t at breeding age, how old were they?

The last Biele mix I had in the flock was a pullet who was sold in December and hadn’t started laying yet.

I had 2 pure Biele hens in the flock at the time- the only other barred birds I have. (But you’re suggesting Solo is a not from a pure Biele, so maybe this doesn’t matter). The older Biele hen didn’t start spring laying until the month after I collected eggs. The younger hen had started laying just the month before, but her eggs don’t resemble any of the other eggs I incubated at the time. So I really can’t see either of those hens as being a parent.

My Biele mix rooster has only been with other bachelor roosters. He hasn’t had access to any hens since November.

My eggs were collected in February and they hatched in March.

 

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The last Biele mix I had in the flock was a pullet who was sold in December and hadn’t started laying yet.

I had 2 pure Biele hens in the flock at the time- the only other barred birds I have. (But you’re suggesting Solo is a not from a pure Biele, so maybe this doesn’t matter). The older Biele hen didn’t start spring laying until the month after I collected eggs. The younger hen had started laying just the month before, but her eggs don’t resemble any of the other eggs I incubated at the time. So I really can’t see either of those hens as being a parent.

My Biele mix rooster has only been with other bachelor roosters. He hasn’t had access to any hens since November.

My eggs were collected in February and they hatched in March.

This is definitely a tough one! Since it seems to be the only option, I’m thinking that Solo’s father is the bielefelder, and one of these two hens has the silver gene and is the mother:

-solid blue straight-comb wyandotte mix

-black rose-type comb BCM x silver laced wynadotte hen.

I do think he is barred, it’s just weird how minimal it is.