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[flypen]

that beast is closer to the weight of my canoe. Ha

I lost one 30 minutes into the tournament last weekend that was every bit this size, I couldn't turn him.

 

[roosterhavoc]

I can fly fish no problem butI can't use a bait caster for sh*t. I got tired of untangling that mess.

 

[roosterhavoc]

Water levels are really low around here too. Haven't had a lot of rain the past few months.

 

[flypen]

Water levels are really low around here too. Haven't had a lot of rain the past few months.

Usually when our water levels go down the vegetation takes over making the frog bite awesome. There's nothing like a giant bass coming up out of the water and down trying to crush your frog. 65# braided line is a must when you're fishing this pattern.

 

[roosterhavoc]

Usually when our water levels go down the vegetation takes over making the frog bite awesome. There's nothing like a giant bass coming up out of the water and down trying to crush your frog. 65# braided line is a must when you're fishing this pattern.

Yeah I'll fish top water flies with a weed guard, I'll usually use a length of braided line or a wire bite tippet since pickerel will hammer them too. they will chew up some flies too.

 

[flypen]

Yeah I'll fish top water flies with a weed guard, I'll usually use a length of braided line or a wire bite tippet since pickerel will hammer them too. they will chew up some flies too.

ha lol they have a mouth full of razor sharp teeth

 

[roosterhavoc]

ha lol they have a mouth full of razor sharp teeth

I've had some big ones hit top water flies with no slack in the line and cut it clean off without budging the tod tip. One I remember hit, I set the hook hard and d*mn near flipped my kayak since there wasn't anything on the line not even the fly. B*stards have no appreciation for hand tied flies.

 

[jonservidio]

originally posted, 7-24 15 by Dead Rabbit in the BREEDING FOR PRODUCTION...EGGS AND OR MEAT thread.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...roduction-eggs-and-or-meat/4620#post_15612986

Hugh Norman a master breeder of game fowl once said, battle fowl aren't brood fowl. And brood fowl aren't battle fowl. .......He never fought his lines of brood stock and never used his battle fowl in the brood pen.

Another words. You keep your brood stock pure and generally tightly inbred to where the genetics aren't greatly diversified. Like produces like. Everything produced comes typical with very little variances.

Then you cross your tightly bred lines to produce your sporting or production lines. The "hybrid vigor" is produced from crossing lines that have proven to be compatible

This method of breeding proves true in most any form of animal husbandry .

 

[roosterhavoc]

Fairly certain everyone knows this already.
I think it's obvious that breeding crosses over and over would bring out too many variances in both looks, ability and health.
If someone was to take a cross stag and pullet, inbreed them and from then on line breed them. Over say 10-15 yrs you could probably get them coming pretty close to identical. Then some would call it pure. I would say consistent but that's just splitting hairs.

 

[B123]

originally posted, 7-24 15 by Dead Rabbit in the BREEDING FOR PRODUCTION...EGGS AND OR MEAT thread.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...roduction-eggs-and-or-meat/4620#post_15612986

Hugh Norman a master breeder of game fowl once said, battle fowl aren't brood fowl. And brood fowl aren't battle fowl. .......He never fought his lines of brood stock and never used his battle fowl in the brood pen.

Another words. You keep your brood stock pure and generally tightly inbred to where the genetics aren't greatly diversified. Like produces like. Everything produced comes typical with very little variances.

Then you cross your tightly bred lines to produce your sporting or production lines. The "hybrid vigor" is produced from crossing lines that have proven to be compatible

This method of breeding proves true in most any form of animal husbandry .

Perhaps some of the seasoned veterans could answer this... Way back when, were the original strains fought pure? If so, are battle crosses more common today? My way of thinking, perhaps misguided, would be testing for performance. At some point, the pure lines would need to be evaluated, rigorously.

My suspicion is that if molecular genetic mapping techniques were used in gamefowl, as it is in many other species, it would paint a very interesting picture of lineages which may or may not coincide with the written or spoken history of many fowl.