Show Off Your American Gamefowl and Chat Thread!!!

[roosterhavoc]

Many times the more aggressive hens do have all or most of those traits listed. If they don’t have good fertility you wouldn’t get very far so that’s out right off the bat and doesn’t even need mentioning.
Parasite resistance eh I guess those things you need to be honest with yourself and how well you were caring for the bird.
I have had a bird with a few northern fowl mites and the bird in the pen next to him with nothing. The bird with the mites was game but Just didn’t seem as good as others and was culled but it wasn’t because of the parasites. Sometimes it really seems like they pretty much have it all or don’t. It really doesn’t seem that hard to understand.

 

[doubleleft]

Aggressiveness ≠ Gameness ≠ Soundness ≠ Ability ≠ Bottom ≠ Top ≠ Endurance ≠ Speed ≠ Disease Resistance Parasite ≠ Resistance Size ≠ Fertility ≠ Color

When you select for only Aggressiveness and Color, the other parts will eventually fail. The other components are core to what game fowl are.

Twisting someone else's statement into an extreme line of bullyshitty is low.

I breed for one thing and that is CUT, ability to finish the show in 1 to 4 pittings. And it all boils down to me having red fowl only.

 

[roosterhavoc]

Imo birds kept in pens fairly close to each other are also a little more aggressive toward me. I have a few that will take a poke at me getting them out. Once on a cord they are perfectly fine. When I cull birds for being mean it’s never related to the pen. The truly mean ones will come up behind you and nail you on a cord.

 

[SOHC-FTW]

I like a well mannered bird maybe a few pecks once in hand but any that will ever fight at me will do so at my kids I'd kill em in a heartbeat.

 

[doubleleft]

Nah the only thing that would fix it now is a complete collapse of the economy and a sensible rebuild. Might happen one of these days. The collapse anyway.

I'm afraid in the collapse Russia and China would own us

 

[doubleleft]

View attachment 1241835 This is a new Ruble hatch broodstag, Mentor took the old one and switched him out with this one. He's looking rough but I reckon he'll fix right up under my care....lol

Ruble Hatch Broodpen

Nice Pens

 

[roosterhavoc]

I like a well mannered bird maybe a few pecks once in hand but any that will ever fight at me will do so at my kids I'd kill em in a heartbeat.

To each their own. If you can’t walk up to a bird on a cord without him fighting you I’d say cull em. Getting a bird out of a smallish pen I let a lot go. If he pulls the same sh*t on the cord though he’s done.
Kids make startling movement that can’t be predicted. Best not to let kids near stags with hormones raging anyway. Asking for trouble. Some stags really calm down as they get older.

 

[doubleleft]

Havoc most of the brood pens Got 4-5 hens. This is to choose the best from each pen. There is a good deal of culling that goes on. I don't talk about it much, but only the best keep living.
It's a tough enviroment, but I have full confidence in my mentors.
This gamefowl thing has its downsides too, but it's only to better the bloodlines. I'm not f*cking around.
My father's legacy is one of ruthlessness and discipline. These are nitty gritty cockers that came up from a need to win, not a want, if you smell what I'm stepping in.

The best of the best, nothing lesser.

I'm still young, but I feel like I have the guidance of a couple generations of cockers. I will put my trust in them. Nothing short of their intuition, I learn, and Take notice.

One day they will be gone, I can only take what they have I instilled upon me and make the best of the best with their guidance and wisdom.


I love raising gamefowl, nothing short of having it run through my veins.

I'm a little drunk too

I see a lot of big-time breeders do the brood pens like you.
personally, I single mate and line breed. You can raise more chickens your way.

 

[SOHC-FTW]

I was just saying what I like in a bird, I personally don't have any aggressive toward me on cord or pen. Kids do make things a bit rough but gotta learn the only one that goes out around the games is the 5yr old and she listens and is learning what to do and not she stays back far enough away and biggest thing we had to work on was fast movements but she learning and I'm always around.

Now stags are completely different as you've said hormones.

 

[sdm111]

Aggressiveness ≠ Gameness ≠ Soundness ≠ Ability ≠ Bottom ≠ Top ≠ Endurance ≠ Speed ≠ Disease Resistance Parasite ≠ Resistance Size ≠ Fertility ≠ Color

When you select for only Aggressiveness and Color, the other parts will eventually fail. The other components are core to what game fowl are.

Twisting someone else's statement into an extreme line of bullyshitty is low.

It's my nature