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[roosterhavoc]

Healthy fertile egg

 

[roosterhavoc]

Healed up nicely

 

[sdm111]

Healthy fertile egg

and don't they taste so good

 

[centrarchid]

My games do not get dewormed, because either they either carry the load well or the worms have a hard time becoming established in them. American Dominiques are less consistent. Some have no need for deworming while others (all acquired from North Carolina) died from worms. Some of my American Dominiques had trouble with worms so they were penned off the ground, treated with dewormer, fed back up to normal weight, and culled. I am concerned about establishing dewormer resistant worms so treat sparingly.

Birds to be deormed at school are not of my stock and not maintained under conditions that can be readily controlled. Paddock adjacent to chickens used as feed lot for sheep where those get dewormed routinely which my complicate my efforts.

Valbazene it will be.

 

[sdm111]

That's my opinion, I feel if you're giving these medications (not just wormers) just to do it for no reason than whatever you're "treating" for will get resistant and the meds may not work as they should when they're really needed AND if you're giving meds regularly you're not allowing a strong immune system to develop cause it don't need to and if something big hit you're birds they can't fight it. Everybody has their own ideas for doing or not doing that's just mine.
I used to give a round of corid to chicks when they go from above ground to the ground but have stopped and haven't had to use it

 

[roosterhavoc]

I agree to an extent. Just giving medications to all birds for no reason seems like it will hurt in the long run and is a waste of money.
Some people say if a bird gets sick cull it. I say if you can treat a bird once and he gets better then so be it. Obviously there are different circumstances like if one stag out of
A bunch is showing a weak immune system
Might as well cull him.
There is a big difference between someone who has 10 birds and 100. The more birds the more the chance of getting sick,hurt etc.. I think the problem comes where people try to use medications as a substitute for good general care.

 

[roosterhavoc]

Everyone's yard is different too, different nutrients or lack thereof can change things. I have a hard time keeping songbirds away from my pens during winter, especially after a snowfall.
For example I came home from work a few weeks ago and found no less then a few hundred starlings sitting all over my pens. They all crapped into all the water cups. Can't be good. Cleaned them all immediately but I'm sure the birds drank water that was filled with bird sh*t. Not too mention little birds carry lice, mites etc..
Also have turkeys that run real close to my pens at times. They carry all kinds of things too.

 

[centrarchid]

Some birds are flat out weak when challenged with some parasites / pathogens. My American Dominiques have no issues at all with coccidocis while the games, especially from one line are very vulnerable when young near penned adults and ground wet (husbandry). The American Games have no issues with worm here. My Missouri Dominques which are an F4-F5 composite of American Dominique and American Game handle worms and coccidia regardless. Clearly a genetic component as well.

 

[roosterhavoc]

I haven't had any known cases of cocci or worms. I have however in the past found an otherwise healthy bird stone dead. So who knows.

 

[centrarchid]

Soil or alternative / intermediate host may not be appropriate in your location for such soil sourced parasites. Here, I have abundant voles, rabbits and birds on soil that can at times be very wet. My young birds forage over several acres with some getting down into woods where they can be bringing up other goodies.


I do not recall working with any species of animal here I could find not sign of parasitism on any given individual.