Know a few that travel that way here and there name doesn't ring a bell to me, but then again I don't do the traveling. I'll ask em for ya if need be.
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My brother and I are trying to kind the guys we knew back in the 1970's into early 1990's. Just found a grandson of one of the guys I recall as being one of the old wisemen. It is helping us put together a more accurate version of history.Know a few that travel that way here and there name doesn't ring a bell to me, but then again I don't do the traveling. I'll ask em for ya if need be.
Got some clarification on this today. Giver was Pierce himself. Brood cocks were acquired multiple times over several years. It is not known when the imports ceased. They came only from the cock side. Party spoken to today described what we have to a tee, right down to occasional occurrences of brown-breasted brown red. He wants to see what we have now.Something putting more into perspective the origin of our birds when my grandfather was a young cocker.
My brother took time to look at old ledger written by our grandfather starting over 100 years ago. It has some breeding records and notes. It is part of the interest in Wingates. It appears his line was based in large part on Wingates with original birds acquired before turn of the century, apparently from one of his cocker uncles. He did not use the term “gifted” which still interest me. I was never taught to use the term even though it is in frequent use by game fowl people of what I think is more southern extraction. Immediately after world war one when they got laid off from doughboy action in Europe, a friend sent him a burley looking brown red cock described as having a humped back. The cock was supposed to be a Pierce Wisconsin Shuffler. I do not know if the giver was a Pierce. No matter what the cock was bred to in my grandfather’s yard, good fowl were produced. I think that was an exaggeration, but likely on the whole better than what he thinks he started with. It was from that the birds he worked with until the 1950’s were derived from. He and his brother up until the early 1980’s used that line to make battle crosses. My brother kept a part of that line pure till I got back in to those around 2006. Stuff on beyond names as already handed down to us by our great-uncle (grandfather’s brother).
Personal birds. We are missing on details of how the Pierce Shuffler was infused. Still missing info on nature of female side prior to introduction.For your personal birds or ones you are interested in?
Thanks. We are having most luck hitting coffee shops.I shot the word out can't promise much.
A damn shame! Lol
http://dominiquechicken.comMe too. I still hear people call any barred chicken a dominecker, but not very often.