Show off your Delawares! *PIC HEAVY*

[kathyinmo]

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After the war with Germany, as part of the reconstruction effort, the USA sent New Hampshires and AMRocks, etc, to Germany. Ya see, during the war, the soldiers (Americans and Germans) and Germans literally ate most all of the poultry in Germany, just to survive. In the USA, the New Hampshires fell to a critically low level of specimens. Americans sorta let go of the dual purpose breeds, in favor of the quick growing Cornish Cross.

The Germans loved the New Hampshires, and still do today, as I understand it. They continue to breed them. It has been said that the Germans have the best New Hampshires there are. An American got some of the German New Hampshires a while back. That is where Doug got his. He has been keeping some pure, and some he is crossing with American Hamps. Apparently, if I understand it correctly, the German New Hampshires are a bit darker than our standard calls for, and the black tips on the hackles of the females is not prominent enough.

 

[kathyinmo]

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I think that cockerel is spoken for. He is going to Doug Akers, along with a trio of F1s.

Believe me, I have no shortage of male Delawares! When you are ready, let me know!

 

[catdaddyfro]

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I think that cockerel is spoken for. He is going to Doug Akers, along with a trio of F1s.

Believe me, I have no shortage of male Delawares! When you are ready, let me know!

Hey there Mrs. Kathy how do

And yes as soon as I get my pens all fixed up I will be acallin' on you for replinisment/back-ups and MORAL supports

Thanks muchly

Jeff

 

[aveca]

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After the war with Germany, as part of the reconstruction effort, the USA sent New Hampshires and AMRocks, etc, to Germany. Ya see, during the war, the soldiers (Americans and Germans) and Germans literally ate most all of the poultry in Germany, just to survive. In the USA, the New Hampshires fell to a critically low level of specimens. Americans sorta let go of the dual purpose breeds, in favor of the quick growing Cornish Cross.

The Germans loved the New Hampshires, and still do today, as I understand it. They continue to breed them. It has been said that the Germans have the best New Hampshires there are. An American got some of the German New Hampshires a while back. That is where Doug got his. He has been keeping some pure, and some he is crossing with American Hamps. Apparently, if I understand it correctly, the German New Hampshires are a bit darker than our standard calls for, and the black tips on the hackles of the females is not prominent enough.

absolutly facinating...I know when we turned industrialised ..farmers left for work in factorys and a lot of very important breeds nearly went to extinction..I wonder how many early american breeds did go extinct..the delaware was on critical life support list, thank God you are all working up a fever to re-create this fantastic breed. Its just breathtaking to see how well you have done...I know same with the aussies and heres a real kick in the butt..back when the hens who were setting record after record in egg laying trials were australorps..well someone with some deep pockets in US imported all of the record egg layers to this country..absolutly no one today can account for what ever happened to them and thier offspring..you can see traces of it in some of todays old line show birds..but what a loss, just thrown into the dustbin of time to go work for somone else and wind up with little or nothing in the end..

the german new hampshire is a model for what we should have been doing..
I have a german warmblood and worked with the verband..I know how they think..so I understand thier drive to improve things..they dominate the olympic sports . they are driven people when they are passionate about something like a chicken or a horse..they drive themselves nuts getting it right..

 

[catdaddyfro]

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I think that cockerel is spoken for. He is going to Doug Akers, along with a trio of F1s.

Believe me, I have no shortage of male Delawares! When you are ready, let me know!

Well that's good that he is spoken for by such a well established poultry fancier like Mr. Akers and it is so fascinating that he's interested in some of the F1 projects to mess around with also, COOL

Jeff

 

[pinkchick]

Okay.....I would love to get some help here. The first gal I will be posting photos of has me wondering if the hackle pattern is correct. It is very different from my other Dels. Also, hope you can see the leg color of this gal too, it is almost marigold yellow, is this the color we are after for legs? Or are we after the paler corn colored yellow?

Thanks in advance!

hackle pattern pullet #1

a more close up shot of her hackle

This is pullet #2 and she is my favorite gal.

Her hackles...which resemble all of my other Dels hackles, but hopefully you can see #1's leg color in this photo. Now looking back at this photo....does #2 (not facing us) have a pinched tail or should I give her more time to grow out?

and here she is getting a peck for general purposes from her sister

 

[joletabey]

Yup, that marigold color is the color! And though both your pullets are lovely, lovely, lovely,the first one is not barred on her hackles - its looks more like lacing. Your second pullet looks to have the correct markings -
The first pullet tail is headed in the right direction, though. What does your roo look like?

 

[Zanna]

Two days ago I had 20 happy healthy Delaware chicks hatch from my first breeding of my roo and 3 hens. Two of the babies are quite dark with some darker striping, one has the same striping but a little lighter (similar to Wellie baby striping). The rest are mostly yellow, some with a few black spots which I have seen in the batch I hatched my breeders from. Could these be pure Dels, does this happen sometimes or did one of my hens hold sperm from another roo (possibles are BCM, WL, NH). I had them in the breeder pen for 21 days before I started collecting eggs and one of the hens had been broody for two full months before!
Sorry I can't post pics right now, main computer is down and using a netbook which I hate

 

[math ace]

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Hey Kim

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From previous discussions it looks like ANY yellow will do. The standard calls for a "rich yellow" which IMHO is the marigold yellow. #2 may be your favorite, but you may need to hold on to #1 just to bring the "rich yellow" leg color back into play later on.

Hackles - - should be barred like pullet # 2. Pullet #1 does appear to have barring, but it looks to be dark grey and black instead of black and white....
I am thinking that she may just be a hair too dark, but would work well with a rooster whose barring is too light.

Tail - - - - black, enitre feather edged with white....On pullet #1, you see the white edging BUT it doesn't edge the whole feather. IMHO, just another sign that she is just a hair too dark.

Coverts - - - showing indications of irregular black and white barring.

I can not say much about pullet #2 because I can not see her tail coloring like I do pullet #1. Her tail ( pullet #2) does look pinched to me, BUT her back is long and her tail angle is low. The standard calls for a moderately long nearly horizontal back that is broad its entire length with a gradual concave sweep from the rear of the back to tail. I think pullet #2 does a great job meeting this standard.
I think both of these girls can be worked with .... use which ever one complements your rooster the best.

Do you have some more body shots? Some shots from above and another shot like the next to last one showing pullet #2's contour....

DISCLAIMER: I know nothing. I have an opinion and that is all it is - - an opinion!

 

[kathyinmo]

Great critique, Lisa. I tend to agree with you on it, too. The pinched tail is something I am working on here. Oliver has a pinched tail, and he is my main rooster for awhile longer. I culled the pinched tailed girls out, down to 3 hens and a few new pullets. Hopefully the next generation will be better on that issue.

Thanks for posting the pictures, Kim.