Show off your Delawares! *PIC HEAVY*

[joletabey]

But the pattern is different. Irregular barring is not the same as penciled no matter what color you use. I don't mean to be dense, but I guess I AM dense.

To me Columbian patterned means the markings on the hackles of a Columbian rock, not a Delaware.

AGH!!! If anyone tells you chemotherapy does NOT kill brain cells, refer them to me.

 

[kathyinmo]

I see where you are coming from, Beth. In the SOP, under the topic of, "Description of Common Plumage Color and Color Patterns," (page 36 of 2001 color version), it says:
Neck: Hackle -- web of feather, lustrous greenish black, with a narrow lacing of silvery white; greater portion of shaft black. Front of neck: white.

However, when reading the specifics on the Delaware breed, I see no mention at all of Colombian, unless I missed it. That is why I am thinking that people just use the term, "Colombian," rather loosely when describing a pattern of dark feathers in the hackles area.

 

[joletabey]

Kathy- that's it exactly, and I think that is very confusing. They are two very different things, and to refer to them with the same descriptive could lead to trouble. JMO. Hahahaha, maybe the SOP needs to add to it's definitions! Hey, Walt!!!!

 

[kathyinmo]

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Actually, I hatched some eggs that were crosses ..... Delaware and Rosecomb RIR .... they ALL looked like Delawares (rosecombed). I will look for the pictures. I don't have them anymore, but I think it is a GREAT idea!

Yeah, it might be worthwhile, huh? I wonder if I should just use one of my roos on the RIR, or if I should start at square one and get a BR roo. Do you like your RC RIRs, or do you still have them?

I found the pictures of the Delaware x rosecomb RIR cross. This was at 9 weeks old. I hatched out 5.
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[HaikuHeritageFarm]

Wow, Kathy! You really can see that RIR brick shape shining through, even though the markings all say Del!

 

[Cindiloohoo]

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Columbian pattern refers to the way the black is placed on the majority white bird. Tail, and hackles. Columbian does not have anything to do with pencilling or barring patterns on the bird. Both Del's and Sussex are Columbian patterned. The difference is the pencilled columbian, versus barred columbian. At least that is what I get out of it.

 

[joletabey]

Cindiloo- thanks! I have never anywhere in the SOP, unless I have missed it, seen the difference defined. So it is a WHERE rather than a WHAT. That helps, but I think there should be a distinction made somewhere - or am I being nit pickky??

 

[Cindiloohoo]

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NOT nit picky IMO. alot of folks just don't realize there is a distinct difference between "pattern" and "coloring." It would help it to be more well defined. I was confused about any difference at first as well. New people to breeding really should have it more simplified. There are so many different patterns and colorings possible, and so many different breeds that SEEM the same on the surface, I think it should be noted

 

[fowlman01]

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On page 38 of the SOP in the Description of Common Plumage and Color patterns you will find the Columbian color/pattern. It describes the traditional Columbian color pattern with no reference to barring or Dels.

Columbian may be a way to genetically describe certain chicken patterns, but it is not used to describe Delaware chickens in the APA Standard of Perfection. In the ABA SOP Delawares are described as: Barred as in Delaware bantams. Page 195. No mention of Columbian there either.

I can understand why it might be referred to as Columbian, but I can also see where that could be confusing.

Walt

 

[JoAnn_WI_4-H_Mom]

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I cannot have Delaware Roosters until I prove I can over-winter those big single combs.

This spring, we will be crossing our Buckeye Rooster over the Imperfectly Feathered Delaware hens as part of the boys' sex-link 4-H project for the fair.

I could let you know how many come out with pea-ish combs.

Personally, I like the big single combs, they just don't like our climate.

We are busy insulating, because we have a Norweigian Jaerhon with an immense comb. Why would a Norweigian breed have such a hugs comb? So far he is outside in a summer hut and 25F at night has not bothered him (lots of friends in there with him), but we are pushing to get the winter quarters ready by the weekend.