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[Cindiloohoo]

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On page 38 of the SOP in the Description of Common Plumage and Color patterns you will find the Columbian color/pattern. It describes the traditional Columbian color pattern with no reference to barring or Dels.

Columbian may be a way to genetically describe certain chicken patterns, but it is not used to describe Delaware chickens in the APA Standard of Perfection. In the ABA SOP Delawares are described as: Barred as in Delaware bantams. Page 195. No mention of Columbian there either.

I can understand why it might be referred to as Columbian, but I can also see where that could be confusing.

Walt

I think the term Colombian pattern, while being technically incorrect, is widely used in reference to Delaware's. Maybe that's the confusion. I don't have a copy of the SOP, but have heard the Colombian reference MANY times.

 

[muddstopper]

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I would not use a RIR. The shape of the RIR is totally different than a NH/BR or Del. That brick shape of the RIR will show up somewhere.

Walt

Why not use a RIR? NH are nothing more than decentants of RIR's that where selectively bred thru generations to alter the characteristics of the RIR. To the best of my knowledge, no other breed beside RIR was introduced to make the NH. Body shape would be the most notable difference between a Delaware made using the RIR X BR cross, but wouldnt colors be the same.

 

[fowlman01]

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I would not use a RIR. The shape of the RIR is totally different than a NH/BR or Del. That brick shape of the RIR will show up somewhere.

Walt

Why not use a RIR? NH are nothing more than decentants of RIR's that where selectively bred thru generations to alter the characteristics of the RIR. To the best of my knowledge, no other breed beside RIR was introduced to make the NH. Body shape would be the most notable difference between a Delaware made using the RIR X BR cross, but wouldnt colors be the same.

The problem is the body shape if the person cares to have a Del that looks like the SOP description. If they don't care a RIR will work for the color.

Walt

 

[speedy2020]

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Yeah, it might be worthwhile, huh? I wonder if I should just use one of my roos on the RIR, or if I should start at square one and get a BR roo. Do you like your RC RIRs, or do you still have them?

I found the pictures of the Delaware x rosecomb RIR cross. This was at 9 weeks old. I hatched out 5.
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https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/31282_06-11-10_delmix_017.jpg

Is the rose comb RIR rooster or hen?

 

[kathyinmo]

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She told me it was a Delaware rooster over a rosecomb RIR.

 

[Tommie D]

Speaking of Genetics. Here is a thread on another forum on a Genetic Database that has some pretty instersting links in it.

http://www.the-coop.org/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=92362&nt=2&page=1

 

[joletabey]

Delaware club meeting tonight- same time, same place!!!! PM me if you need the info again!

 

[ColeyPoultry]

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On page 38 of the SOP in the Description of Common Plumage and Color patterns you will find the Columbian color/pattern. It describes the traditional Columbian color pattern with no reference to barring or Dels.

Columbian may be a way to genetically describe certain chicken patterns, but it is not used to describe Delaware chickens in the APA Standard of Perfection. In the ABA SOP Delawares are described as: Barred as in Delaware bantams. Page 195. No mention of Columbian there either.

I can understand why it might be referred to as Columbian, but I can also see where that could be confusing.

Walt

I think the term Colombian pattern, while being technically incorrect, is widely used in reference to Delaware's. Maybe that's the confusion. I don't have a copy of the SOP, but have heard the Colombian reference MANY times.

Okay, I agree that the 'Columbian' have been loosely used when describing Delawares but do we have the codes for Delawares displaying Barred/Columbian type pattern? We've got Co/Co for 'Columbian,' so what code do we use to describe 'Delawares plumage?'
We dont have the standard specifications for Delawares over here, so I wouldn't know but would appreciates taking notes as I love the look of Delawares and hope to start them here!

RIRS vs NH...for my intended purpose, I cannot get bantamised New Hampshires (none that I know of), but bantamised RIRs in NZ. There might be someone but I wouldn't know at this stage

In my case, its a matter of using what you've got. I suspects that there will be many breeds that wont be attempted here because of lacking one to a few breeds. You guys are lucky that you've got numerous breeds to choose from! I, myself, would love a Phoenix, Jersey Giants, Sumatra.....just to name a few (but I've no idea what a 'buckeye' looks like!!? but I will have a lookie later on).

But I do feel quite limited with what resources we've got for poultry (I'm sure countless of serious poultry breeders in NZ feels the same) as our gene pools are so small for some breeds. Its just not funny

And we can't import live birds to introduce a good variety of poultry breeds because of heavy restrictions in live imports (but more so for poultry), which is 'fair enough' in one way but hugely sad in another. Here, we have to start from scratch in some cases.

**how do you delete some of the 'posts within posts?' I've spent ages trying to eliminate one-two posts but after numerous attempts at getting the codes right, I've given up! lol **

 

[Cindiloohoo]

Coley~ Back just a couple hundred years ago we did not have all these breeds either. Just a hundred years ago, there was no Delaware or Cornish X's! Most of the breeds today were bred from existing stock of whatever was here. In your country, you are in on the ground level of producing your own breeds, I'd SO LOVE to be in that position!!! Sometimes limitations can be good

I'd go with the RIR's, as they are the closest to what you need. It may not be a perfect Del, but if the coloring is what you are wanting, you could start your own new breed and name it something else. I think that would be neat

When you want to eliminate something from the quotes you just do the beginning and end quotes around what you want quoted, and delete the rest

The codes for those is {quote} and {/quote} with the other kind of parenthesis [, and ] instead, I just had to do it like that to show you. Correct that, and you'll have it.

 

[Bassleg]

So far this is my Best looking Del cockerel and some other boys