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[kathyinmo]

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The Males should have barring on the tail, the females only should have barring on the secondary tail feathers. The primaries in the female should be black, laced with white around the edges

I have seen some male delawares with barring on the tail that had the white around the edges too. Is this OK, DQ, or just a fault?

Do you have a SOP book? Under disqualifications it says: see general disqualifications and cutting for defects.

 

[speckledhen]

Young pullets can have tail barring. I've seen it several times. It molts out at some point and they get proper tail black, sometimes as last as 14-18 weeks old.

 

[PepsNick]

Ah, I understand. This chick really has no tail barring. Hoping for pullet, although this really isn't the friendliest.

 

[X2Farm]

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Now that you mention it, Ms Cynthia, I noticed that, actually, in the Dels I got from Kathy (The only ones I've grown out from chicks so far). The one remaining pullet had some obvious barring, but now has beautiful laced tail feathers. Strange how that works... they can change so much!

 

[speckledhen]

I've posted pics of Gracie's really nice tail barring she had, then molted out and grew good tail black. She had barring that you'd love to see in young Del roosters, but it didn't (and shouldn't) stay.

 

[har]

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I remember last summer when my Del pullets had barring on there tails and I posted that. Cyn told me to be patient that they may grow out of that. Today the barring is gone and there tails are what they are supposed to be.

 

[math ace]

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I have seen some male delawares with barring on the tail that had the white around the edges too. Is this OK, DQ, or just a fault?

Do you have a SOP book? Under disqualifications it says: see general disqualifications and cutting for defects.

Yes, I do have a SOP book. . . I was hoping for a simple yes or no answer from those who know. I guess I will go look it up...

Let me see what it says . . .

Under delawares it says for disqualifications "see general disqualifications and cutting for defects". .. That wasn't very helpful!

Under delawares is says for color - male

TAIL: Main Tail - showing irreagular indication of black and white barring., black predominating.
Sickles and coverts - - showing irredular indistinct black and white barring; quills and shftes white

ummmm, I don't think that answered my question either
So what does the GENERAL DISQUALIFICATIONS say . . . .

IF any of the condiditions noted below are found, the judge shall disqualify that specimen and state the reason on both the coop card and the judgon sheet. In any cause where evidence is doubtful the bird shall be presumed to be acceptable.

General Disqualifications

ALL BREEDS AND VARIETIES:

1. Specimen lacking in breed charateristics
2. Definitie indications of contagious or commuinicable diseases.
3. Evidence of Faking

ummmmm, still don't think I see the answer to my question

So, I will keep looking . .

Maybe it will be under the color section . . .

PLUMAGE:

a. All barred, black and mottled varieties
1. Red or Yellow

b. All white varieties
1. Black in quilts of primaries and secondaries
2. Foereign color, except slight gray ticking

c. All Columbian varieties including Ligh Brahmas
1. One or more solid black or brown feathers on sureface of back; dark spots or mossiness in surface of back or saddle appearing in approximately 15 percent or more of feathers of this section, except narrow black stripes extending not over half the lenfth of feather in saddle and near tail of male, or dark markings in cape or either sex; red feathers in plumage.

ummm, still not seeing the answer to my question

I think at this point I have shown due dilegence in finding the answer myself. . .. . I sure am hoping the I can get an answer now to my question . . . .

I have seen some male delawares with barring on the tail that had the white around the edges too. Is this OK, DQ, or just a fault?

Please keep in mind that it is hard for me to read AND UNDERSTAND everything that is in the SOP and that is why I ask questions on here.

 

[X2Farm]

Hey Lisa

I'm not 100% sure, its not very clear, is it? Both my grown Delaware Roosters have barring with no white edging (like lacing) and the barring meets the egde of the tail feathers. My interpretation is that no lacing in the male tails is how its supposed to be, so thats what I'll be breeding for. I could be wrong though.

I'd think it'd be a fault? If the tail is still barred but with white lacing? Can't say for sure, I'm just hazarding a guess

 

[kathyinmo]

I don't show my birds, Lisa. I can't help you out with what is a DQ or a fault.

 

[math ace]

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Yes, I plan on breeding for towards the standard of barring meeting the edge too. .. .
I try to avoid all DQ's in my culling process. I do keep birds with faults and try to improve the next generation. . . So, if the body was really good and the tail barring with lace was only a fault . . . I would want to keep and work with that bird.

I do find the SOP vague and if I have specific question . . . I do prefer to ask it.

I think the SOP was really written to help judges judge. With that in mind. . . it assumes a lot that newbies like me just don't know

IF anyone knows whether the tail with barring that has white lace edging is a DQ or fault - - - please speak up. I know there are a few judges who stop in here from time to time . . . . Perhaps they could tell use how they would view this.

I did see a roo the other day that had a nice wing set, nice bowl shape to the body, nice tail angle, but it had the white lace edging on the barring on the tail.