Showgirl with a bad spider bite!!! *Graffic Pics***

[SilkiesnFrizzle]

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Is she drinking? If not, tube fluids first, wait 60-90 minutes and tube more fluids. Do this before tubing any food. Would be ideal if you could tube fluids tonight, clean the wound tomorrow morning, then tube when done. Tubing should always be the last procedure to reduce risk of vomiting.

She is drinking a little but I was going to tube her fluids first to get her hydrated. Should I go ahead and mix up some antibiotics to give to her now as well?

 

[micstrachan]

I am just seeing this thread and am just here to offer moral support. I think everything else has mostly been covered. Good luck and I hope she recovers soon!

One question for the more experienced folks. Might there be a drawing salve that could help if it is indeed a spider bite?

 

[Wyorp Rock]

I am just seeing this thread and am just here to offer moral support. I think everything else has mostly been covered. Good luck and I hope she recovers soon!

One question for the more experienced folks. Might there be a drawing salve that could help if it is indeed a spider bite?

Not sure about drawing salve. Spider and tick bites, Benadryl can be used once to help with allergic reaction.
I would be interested to see what Kathy thinks.

 

[coach723]

Echinacea Angustifolium as a poultice may help. I use this on my husband for insect bites (he has terrible reactions) and it reduces swelling and relieves pain and itch (better than benadryl). If you have a decent supplement store nearby you can find it in capsule form and empty the capsules and make a poultice. You can also make a tea and give it orally if you choose. Read the labels, some echinacea will be 'pupurea', it's most common and is less effective, find 'angustifolium'. It's also good for treating wounds and burns, so will do no harm and you can use it in addition to any other treatments you go with. I make a paste (with the tea if you make it, otherwise distilled water) apply liberally over the area. Cover with a pad of wet gauze, then I cover with a piece of plastic wrap (to keep it moist) and wrap gently to keep it in place. Leave on for several hours (as long as you can reasonably). You can reapply/treat as necessary. Wrapping a chicken in the head/neck area may be challenging, maybe you can manage to do it without wrapping if she's not moving much, but wanted to pass this on anyway. Echinacea was used widely for wound treatment, burns and venomous bites up until the advent of modern antibiotics.
http://doctorschar.com/echinacea-wound-healing-agent/

 

[SilkiesnFrizzle]

@coach723 I do not have a good supplement store close. But I was reading about charcoal poultice. I can get that at a drug store. Would this be helpful? What I have on hand is Vetracycin, Blue Kote and Neosporin. Would any of these do for a wet wrap now until I'm able to get to the store? I have breathable gauze. I did start tube feeding just water with vitamins and Duramycin as I want to get her hydrated first. She does consume little amounts of water on her own but not enough.

 

[SilkiesnFrizzle]

@coach723 This is what I found. It's 400 mg a capsule. I'm tubing her liquids now, can I add a capsule to that. She is getting antibiotics and vitamins in her water now.

 

[coach723]

You can use that (if you look on the back of the jar info it should say what kind of echinacea it is, if it does not say then I would assume it's purpurea- not ideal but worth a shot). I would do the poultice first. Echinacea is not really a 'systemic' (most herbals are not) so treating as directly to the area as possible works best. You can also give it orally, it won't hurt and may help boost her immune system and help. Rather than give her the dried capsule contents I would empty the capsules and make a decoction (tea - 1 gm of echinacea to 150 gm distilled water, bring water to a boil and simmer for 10 min, let it cool, you can make a tea bag with gauze, muslin etc. The capsule contents are going to be very fine, a tea ball probably won't work. Otherwise, just put the capsule contents in the water and let it settle out while cooling and use the tea on top.) and give her that 3 times a day (I was not able to find any information that echinacea has any interaction with duramycin). If it's purpurea then I'm not sure what kind of results you will get, I use angustifolium and the results are very good with the poultice. I have used charcoal poultices also, they are good for absorbing toxins.
When resorting to antibiotics for wound infections I usually use amoxicillin orally, or penicillin G procaine injectable, and I have found that there is much less digestive upset with the injectable. Amoxicillin is available on line as 'fish-mox', and the penicillin is available OTC at many feed stores, Tractor Supply has it, so if you don't see results with the Duramycin you might consider those. I'm a big fan of veterycin, so I would use that for any cleaning of the area from here on out, and neosporin is good for superficial skin wounds that aren't too deep. Definitely keep her hydrated.

 

[SilkiesnFrizzle]

@casportpony I looked closer at her skin. She is massively infested with red mites. Massively. This has to definitely exaserbate the infection. Could explain the weakness?

 

[casportpony]

@casportpony I looked closer at her skin. She is massively infested with red mites. Massively. This has to definitely exaserbate the infection. Could explain the weakness?

Red mites can make them anemic and can kill them! Get some permethrin ASAP.

 

[SilkiesnFrizzle]

Red mites can make them anemic and can kill them! Get some permethrin ASAP.
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Already on top of it. Dusted her as soon as I saw them.