sick birds?

[trailchick]

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Can you provide that link to this study? I am a member of the UPA, and I cant find it....
Would like to see it.
Has she created a formulated feed for peafowl? Just curious. Peafowl, like humans & other life forms, are individuals and what works for some may not be the best for another. Yes, no majic bullet, so we all need to observe our animals on a regular basis and adjust accordingly.

 

[MinxFox]

I would also like to read the study. I want to make sure my birds are getting what they need.

 

[Yoda]

Josh
Safeguard is 3 ml/cc to a gallon of water. Be sure it is the only water the birds can drink. Give it for 3 days then repeat again about 14 days. Tylan 200 and tylan 50 are injections. Tylan 200 is 1 cc/ml and the tylan 50 is more cc/ml because it is weaker. If you can get the tylan 200 get that one not the 50.

Keep the birds in a clean comfortable non stressed area. If you think they are chilly placed a heat lamp in with them. This is why I asked how they are housed?

 

[Yoda]

Post removed by moderation. Please focus on answering the OP.

 

[Bigcreekpeafowl]

I think the BYC forum and the UPA forum are both great sources of information for peafowl owners.
When we got started if this resource would have been available it probably would have saved us from a lot of heartache and money.

One of the single most important things you can do for your peafowl is WORM them regularly with wormers such as panacur (safeguard), Valbazen, which both are excellent for peafowl and both have a large safety margin.
Levamisole (prohibit) is also very good, and we use it.

Ivermectin for external parasites we have replaced with eprinex. Even helps with those horrid Buffalo gnats we are now plagued with in our area all spring into early summer. They were biting the peafowl in the head and neck. And would swarm anything. The eprinex helped.
Peafowl can be deathly ill with one foot in the grave before symptoms are noticeable to most. Watch your birds close. We pick many of them up just randomly to check weight.
Diet wise we tried Mazzuri, however in our area consistent availability was a problem. Then they changed the pellet and bag size. Plus the birds take to it was lukewarm at best. So we went back to grinding our own. Plus fruits, veggies, whole wheat whole grain breads. Live crickets, waxworms once a week (from a breeder of feeding insects, etc.).
Plenty of fresh air, sunshine. Buy your peas from seasoned, reputable breeders.
Clean spacious indoor/outdoor pens and you got healthy, happy peafowl.

 

[Resolution]

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In 4 days his bird could be dead and you are telling him to make them all a Thanksgiving dinner and call it a night? Oh write back if they get worse! If I held my head to yours I bet I would hear the ocean wouldn't I?

Are you actually suggesting that he grab up his birds showing symptoms (not very serious at this point) and begin medicating them without any idea what is wrong with them?
Would you have him inject an antibiotic that may not even be effective against what his birds are afflicted with?
I suppose you'd have him inject in the breast as if this is the region that is afflicted?
Worming a bird with a damaged immune system before boosting that immune system is cavalier, especially as the symptoms appear to be more related with a respiratory infection and not a parasitic infection.

Just slow down and enable yourself to make educated decisions.

 

[deerman]

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Two real good points.....alot of people new to peafowl, notice real late when their peafowl are sick , so advice to treat asap

 

[deerman]

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In 4 days his bird could be dead and you are telling him to make them all a Thanksgiving dinner and call it a night? Oh write back if they get worse! If I held my head to yours I bet I would hear the ocean wouldn't I?

Yoda you are correct , treat the birds asap tylan for respiratory infection, worm for the gapeworm. even Resolution thinks its one of the two, i see no good reason to wait.

 

[featherhead]

Dr. Kelcey Swyers' article is in the Members Section of the UPA forum. (You need to be a logged-on UPA member to access this info.) It's posted in the Knowledge Base, along with lots of other essays. Yes, Dr. Swyers formulated feed for peafowl and several large breeders feed it religiously.

As far as the sick bird, this is why I strongly recommend having a fecal done ASAP. I'm so adamant about this tool for correct diagnosis that I got a microscope and sodium nitrate to run my own fecals. If the bird has coccidia, which is possible, wormers won't help at all and you've wasted valuable time for a bird that's declining every day. I hope this bird pulls through and am waiting to hear some good news.

 

[Resolution]

Having worked as a veterinary technician for over a decade now and one that specialises on exotic animals and birds, I've learned how important it is not to be alarmist. Read carefully what Josh has written here and then reread some of the comments. When dealing with the health of animal and by extension an entire flock you don't suggest that antibiotics be used until you know exactly what the bird is actually suffering from. Likewise, he hasn't got any idea if the bird has internal parasites. But all you experts with hundreds of peacocks of experience know full well what the symptoms of coccidia are. The birds may be coming down with the common fungal infection- aspergillosis.. We just don't know.

The first thing that needs to happen is that the immune system of the birds be boosted. That's the most important thing that can be possibly done at this moment.
If the bird were in dire straits as was Yoda's peacock that died- and I read and waited for good advice from the pea gallery- there was none. The bird perished.
We can learn from mortality. Indeed, we should..


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Compare this data with that presented by Yoda. How are they different? Don't weaken the birds' immune systems to treat infectious diseases or parasites that have not been identified. That's critical in the long-term health management of captive birds. Educating the aviculturist is part and parcel in this process.


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Odey587 has it spot on. Dr Swyers has a feed formulated specifically for peafowl- find it and use it. If this isn't feasible investigate what about it is unique for peafowl and get proactive about providing optimal nutrition for your birds. Food is medicine.

Correct diagnosis is critical and look- Odey587 ( sorry - featherhead not Odey587) even has a microscope and sodium nitrate. This is a serious aviculturist.