Sick hybrid and what to do?

[RedHillChicken]

Tuesday morning report. Poop looks the same as the past three days, greenish with yellow puss looking discharge. Gave her a calcium pill. She's not eating and still listless. About to take her out in the yard to see if she'll eat some more greens. May go to Tractor supply and get an antibiotic and wormer. Can't see that the calcium is changing anything.

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[RedHillChicken]

Just administered 1.25mg of Safeguard. In observing her after giving her the calcium for 3 days, there doesn't seem to be any change. This morning out free ranging, she didn't eat as much greens, and was not as mobile as yesterday. She's back in the garage so we'll keep an eye on her. Thanks for all your help!

 

[RedHillChicken]

Hey @Eggcessive and @Wyorp Rock, so the only treatment I haven't tried is an antibiotic. Of course Tractor Supply doesn't carry any (Federal mandates) but if I can find a willing vet what would be the best antibiotic to try? I understand that a general antibiotic might not help and we really don't know if she has an infection without a vet exam, so this is really a shot in the dark. Thanks again!

 

[coach723]

The easiest thing to find is probably amoxicillin. You can get it on line without a prescription as fish mox or fish amoxicillin. Getting it in time would be the issue. For many reproductive problems enrofloxacin (baytril) is most commonly used. You can get it as an oral medication from pigeon suppliers, here is one: https://jedds.com/products/enrofloxacin-10?_pos=1&_sid=7bcbc32a7&_ss=r
Again, getting it in time might be an issue. If your vet is willing to dispense either one, that would be faster for sure. If it were me, I would probably go for the enrofloxacin if I had to choose one. But you are correct, without exam or testing, it's a shot in the dark. And not knowing what exactly is going on, neither may be effective.

 

[RedHillChicken]

The easiest thing to find is probably amoxicillin. You can get it on line without a prescription as fish mox or fish amoxicillin. Getting it in time would be the issue. For many reproductive problems enrofloxacin (baytril) is most commonly used. You can get it as an oral medication from pigeon suppliers, here is one: https://jedds.com/products/enrofloxacin-10?_pos=1&_sid=7bcbc32a7&_ss=r
Again, getting it in time might be an issue. If your vet is willing to dispense either one, that would be faster for sure. If it were me, I would probably go for the enrofloxacin if I had to choose one. But you are correct, without exam or testing, it's a shot in the dark. And not knowing what exactly is going on, neither may be effective.

Just looked at the enrofloxacin, and it says mix it in water. The issue is that she's drinking very little water now. Do you know of a direct dosage amount she could take by mouth? Thanks!

 

[coach723]

The doses I have used are:
10 mg/kg twice a day for 5 days (0.1 ml per 2.2 lbs)
15 mg/kg once a day for 5 days (0.15 ml per 2.2 lbs)
20 mg/kg once a day for 5 days (0.2 ml per 2.2 lbs)
They also have 10 mg pills, if you prefer over the liquid.
I have used the liquid and pills, as well as injectable that was gotten from a vet.

 

[RedHillChicken]

The doses I have used are:
10 mg/kg twice a day for 5 days (0.1 ml per 2.2 lbs)
15 mg/kg once a day for 5 days (0.15 ml per 2.2 lbs)
20 mg/kg once a day for 5 days (0.2 ml per 2.2 lbs)
They also have 10 mg pills, if you prefer over the liquid.
I have used the liquid and pills, as well as injectable that was gotten from a vet.

I'd probably get pills, they store better. I'm still concerned about giving a general antibiotic without knowing that will heal her. We've been looking at pictures showing the results of chickens with worms. A lot of the symptoms match what our hen displays.

 

[coach723]

IF, and it's a big if, you see improvement from worming, then if the bird doesn't seem quite right, I follow up with amoxicillin (not every time). I have had birds with secondary infections after carrying a load of roundworms. Internal parasites can cause runny or mucousy droppings. But as with many things, symptoms can be very similar with very different causes. Sometimes we just guess based on past experience or what we are seeing and what is most common.

 

[Eggcessive]

Amoxicillin is difficult to get without a vet prescription nowadays. Fix mox and aqua mox are now prescription only. They sell amoxicillin powder below, but don’t use it in the water. Dosage is 250 mg given orally twice a day for 7-10 days. 1 gram or 1/4 tsp would equal 2 doses. I would mix it in cream cheese or canned cat food pate, and divide that in two. Give 1/2 in the morning and 1/2 at night. Here is is:
https://jedds.com/products/amoxicil...-1NqmczKP5REug6DzxGe_AGHKRLQj8rA_QYoL2GDZHHCh

The enrofloxacin is not approved for hens because of emerging antibiotic resistance, but many use it because it treats many types of bacteria including E. Coli, which is common ing EYP. If that doesn’t bother you to use it, it is one of the best ones. As coach723 said dosage is 10 mg per kg (each 2.2 pounds) twice a day for 5 days. Give it orally (not in water because it tastes bad.)

 

[RedHillChicken]

Not sure how long she is going to last, not eating or drinking much. How long, after starting the worming, before there should be visible improvement? Will there be any obvious signs in her excrement of worming sucess?