Sick SLW- 7 months old- nothing is helping

[gander007]

I hope I did not lead you to believe she would pass away but I do see
you are prepared to find out the problem this is great and yes once
a person starts some medicine continue to the end most defiantly the
poisons I ask because it happens more then people think and it is
always important to look at all avenues .......
Please keep up updated to the end for better or the other .........
Best wishes .......

gander007

 

[STaggart]

I hope I did not lead you to believe she would pass away but I do see
you are prepared to find out the problem this is great and yes once
a person starts some medicine continue to the end most defiantly the
poisons I ask because it happens more then people think and it is
always important to look at all avenues .......
Please keep up updated to the end for better or the other .........
Best wishes .......

gander007

Oh, no you didn't. I think I have resorted to Velma not making it. If she does it will surprise the heck out of me! I watched my other girls for about an hour and a half this evening and they all still seem do be doing well. I can only hope little Velma pulls through this. Yes, I update daily thank you so much gander007 and Eggcessive for all your advise, too!

 

[Eggcessive]

Ok, after reading about the Necrotic Enteritis I think something else may be going on along with my original thought of Cocci. She has every symptom of the N.E. I will pick up some Penicillin (injectable if I can get it, that would eliminate me having to touch it because I am allergic to it). You listed three different medications which the Bacitracin is a medicine found in feed. Did you mean to treat with one or all 3 of them for Necrotic Enteritis? I think I might have some Terramycin in my "chicken get well" kit...

Sorry that I was away for awhile. I had meant to say that you could use one of the medications to treat. Actually, the more I am reading, there are other antibiotics that can be used: neomycin (NeoMed325),Aureomycin, oxytetracycline, amoxicillin, as well as the first 3 I mentioned--penicillin, erythromycin, and bacitracin. Since you are allergic to penicillin, I might use the erythromycin (Terramycin) or one of the others. I have read about several people here on BYC treating for C.Perfringens, which is the bacteria that causes necrotic enteritis. There is a thread by Nambroth that I will try to find--she was able to save her chicken.

 

[STaggart]

Last update for tonight....

I just checked on Velma and I caught her eating at her food (I mixed some scratch in with it and put some Corid water in it- maybe that helped?)! I think I have worried enough today, for the world, about her. I just hope she pulls through it. I will check on her bright and early tomorrow morning and update then. I did start her on probiotics which I am hoping helps.

 

[STaggart]

Sorry that I was away for awhile. I had meant to say that you could use one of the medications to treat. Actually, the more I am reading, there are other antibiotics that can be used: neomycin (NeoMed325),Aureomycin, oxytetracycline, amoxicillin, as well as the first 3 I mentioned--penicillin, erythromycin, and bacitracin. Since you are allergic to penicillin, I might use the erythromycin (Terramycin) or one of the others. I have read about several people here on BYC treating for C.Perfringens, which is the bacteria that causes necrotic enteritis. There is a thread by Nambroth that I will try to find--she was able to save her chicken.

Would you recommend that I start the other medication tomorrow along with the Corid or wait for two more days (her 7th day of Corid)? And, if you do recommend starting the other medication tomorrow do I mix them in the same water or separately? No matter what I will go ahead and take a list to see what the farm store has and pick something up tomorrow. I thought I had Terramycin, but it was Duramycin-10. Which I don't think helps with this sort of issue. I will look up Nambroth and see what I come up with too. Thank you!!!!!! SO MUCH!!!!!

 

[Eggcessive]

I'm certainly not an expert, but I would start the antibiotic and stop the Corid since I don't think they should be mixed. Someone may say they have given them together, but I can't say. Now, Duramycin10 is tetracycline, and is related to oxytetracycline, but it is not the first choice I would make in treating this. I have read also that Tylan can be used, but it is mostly used for respiratory illnesses. I sure hope you can help your hen get over this.

 

[STaggart]

Ok. I stopped the Corid today and will start the antibiotic. I just got back from the farm store and the Sarge, the guy that is a walking information catalog about chickens, said injectable Penicillin is the best way and the quickest way to see improvements if Velma will improve. If the Penicillin does not work within 3 days then Sarge said there probably is not hope for her. This saddens me so much because I am so attached, but I will cross that bridge when the time comes. Does anyone know the dosage amount for poultry? I will be administering it to her very soon as I hope it will improve her condition. It is Penicillin G Procaine if that helps?

 

[Eggcessive]

Procaine Penicillin G 300, 000 units per ml--Clean off the skin with alcohol, shake the bottle well, give 0.1 ml or cc into the breast muscle with a 20 gauge needle inserted 1/4 to 1/2 inch, and massage it into the muscle, rotating sides daily for 4 days. This medication is very thick, and you may have to use an 18 gauge needle to withdraw it from the bottle, but try to use the smaller needle for injection. Normally, I would use a 22 gauge needle for other medications, but this one is too thick.

 

[Eggcessive]

Since some say that giving 1/10 of a cc/ml of penicillin is hard to measure, you can give up to 1/4 ml/cc to most chickens safely.

 

[STaggart]

Procaine Penicillin G 300, 000 units per ml--Clean off the skin with alcohol, shake the bottle well, give 0.1 ml or cc into the breast muscle with a 20 gauge needle inserted 1/4 to 1/2 inch, and massage it into the muscle, rotating sides daily for 4 days. This medication is very thick, and you may have to use an 18 gauge needle to withdraw it from the bottle, but try to use the smaller needle for injection. Normally, I would use a 22 gauge needle for other medications, but this one is too thick.

I found this information by SpeckledHills also for anyone who is having similar issues https://sites.google.com/a/poultryp...oultry-podiatry#chickens_penicillin_injection
This person is very extensive about how to administer shots in general along with other issues that one may experience.

Eggcessive, 0.1 ml? really that's all. That seems like such a small dosage. Or is it 0.1 ml/ pound?