Silkie breeding, genetics & showing

[Sonoran Silkies]

Quote: Eggsactly!

 

[ChickNmamma]

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hmm.. yellow and silver... Golden Roosters? - I hope there is something else in the mix that causes that - other than being roosters..

That was what I asked.. if maybe it was a splash. But it came out of a blue/black crossing I believe she said..

I wish they were pure Partridge - but they are a cross I am working on to get nice non-bearded Partridges. They are F1 from a non-bearded Red Partridge rooster to what I have.. which is a Blue hen, a Buff hen and a Blue frizzle (for fun). I have no clue HOW I got the 4 babies I have out so far - I have two more in the 'bator trying to hatch out now (one Sumatra, one Silkie egg).. so I sure hope this tells me more about what is under these birds (not the Sumatra

)... VERY CONFUSING! 4 more in there not doing anything.. yet.. but it is only SUPPOSED to be day 20! Good grief on the early birds - and I was not ready!

I have two yellow ones with stripes (one partridge striped, one just lines), one buff one (that is obviously from the buff girl) and one.. silver?

Ok, not great pictures but here you go..

Two yellow with stripes and the silvery one


All four - first one to left is UP (first one, born on day 18 by my count), next one at top is yellow chipmunk (#2), hiding one was born this morning and one to right is the Buff baby (#3) - with a few stripes. I sure hope buff baby is a girl because her mom has the best poof and shape.. and if I cross her back to my rooster I will have a chance for Partridge next generation.

These chicks sure have a lot of partridge markings early though - I did not expect any Partridge markings until F2...

 

[peepblessed]

I at first thought it must be splash but parents are blue and black and nothing but blue and black chicks out of a couple of dozen. It's 5 weeks old now so I won't have long to wait to see what the final color is.

 

[peepblessed]

hmm.. yellow and silver... Golden Roosters? - I hope there is something else in the mix that causes that - other than being roosters..

That was what I asked.. if maybe it was a splash. But it came out of a blue/black crossing I believe she said..

I wish they were pure Partridge - but they are a cross I am working on to get nice non-bearded Partridges. They are F1 from a non-bearded Red Partridge rooster to what I have.. which is a Blue hen, a Buff hen and a Blue frizzle (for fun). I have no clue HOW I got the 4 babies I have out so far - I have two more in the 'bator trying to hatch out now (one Sumatra, one Silkie egg).. so I sure hope this tells me more about what is under these birds (not the Sumatra

)... VERY CONFUSING! 4 more in there not doing anything.. yet.. but it is only SUPPOSED to be day 20! Good grief on the early birds - and I was not ready!

I have two yellow ones with stripes (one partridge striped, one just lines), one buff one (that is obviously from the buff girl) and one.. silver?

Ok, not great pictures but here you go..

Two yellow with stripes and the silvery one


All four - first one to left is UP (first one, born on day 18 by my count), next one at top is yellow chipmunk (#2), hiding one was born this morning and one to right is the Buff baby (#3) - with a few stripes. I sure hope buff baby is a girl because her mom has the best poof and shape.. and if I cross her back to my rooster I will have a chance for Partridge next generation.

These chicks sure have a lot of partridge markings early though - I did not expect any Partridge markings until F2...

The pale yellow with stripes usually end up grey (silver partridge). The silvery one could be splash, light blue, self-blue or silver gene white! Depending on what genetics you've got of course.

 

[ilovemysilkie]

I hope nothing is wrong with it. Cuz my other chick died after 3 days

it might be picking out it's feathers. How old is it?

I think its like 2 weeks

 

[ChickNmamma]

Quote: Thank you very much for your insight. I am very surprised to end up with any Partridge of any color (especially silver) in the F1 generation...

The Rooster is from a B/B/S pen and he has partridge stripes on his back, gold on his neck and white in his primary wing feathers (which always confused me)... It is possible he isn't Partridge at all but just some other combination that looks close.. Somebody out there that knows all these combinations - can you tell me if he is actually a partridge from his kids? I want to LEARN!!!

I suppose he COULD be a really dark blue - but he is very dark (for the splash chick possibility)

I suppose he could be carrying lav but he wasn't from a Self Blue pen and I don't know if any of the mothers could carry lav (for Self Blue chick possibility)...

The silver gene white is what you may have with your chick peepblessed? I am going to have to learn more about that - how a blue and a black can end up white without carrying recessive or dominant white.. and what does that produce? It sounds neat... Does it cover any pattern up?

Since he is the father of all the chicks, and since it looks like I may have both silver and gold chicks there (the buff sure looks gold), maybe he is Golden? He looks Gold to me but could carry silver to his kids.. I really want to grow all these out to see what they are.. my mother says to sell the early ones because they are roosters and I don't WANT to!...

 

[peepblessed]

Thank you very much for your insight. I am very surprised to end up with any Partridge of any color (especially silver) in the F1 generation...

The Rooster is from a B/B/S pen and he has partridge stripes on his back, gold on his neck and white in his primary wing feathers (which always confused me)... It is possible he isn't Partridge at all but just some other combination that looks close.. Somebody out there that knows all these combinations - can you tell me if he is actually a partridge from his kids? I want to LEARN!!!

I suppose he COULD be a really dark blue - but he is very dark (for the splash chick possibility)

I suppose he could be carrying lav but he wasn't from a Self Blue pen and I don't know if any of the mothers could carry lav (for Self Blue chick possibility)...

The silver gene white is what you may have with your chick peepblessed? I am going to have to learn more about that - how a blue and a black can end up white without carrying recessive or dominant white.. and what does that produce? It sounds neat... Does it cover any pattern up?

Since he is the father of all the chicks, and since it looks like I may have both silver and gold chicks there (the buff sure looks gold), maybe he is Golden? He looks Gold to me but could carry silver to his kids.. I really want to grow all these out to see what they are.. my mother says to sell the early ones because they are roosters and I don't WANT to!...

Haha! My head is spinning!! Post a photo of your "partridge" roo. Sounds interesting.

 

[ChickNmamma]

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Peepblessed, meet Owl.. Owl - this is Peepblessed...

I may need better pictures of him.. but he doesn't stand still very well..

He does have the brown/black on his feathers. His underfluff is pretty dark too... Really nice green sheen on his back and his tail in the sun.

 

[emvickrey]

I have what was suppose to be a paint silkie but he had blue spots instead of black. Is this another color? I've shown him as a paint and he's won till the last show and there was a paint that had black spots right next to my guy with blue spots. Mine is white with blue spots. He isn't a splash but more like a blue paint. Does anybody know if this could be the beginning of another color or is it out there already? That last show he was in he got 2nd place still but he is not the paint that I wanted. I love him anyway and if I can convince him to breed I would like to try to get more like him.



The pics aren't the best quality but other than the blue spots his other feathers are white. No blue hue to them at all. Just like a paint would have white feathers with black spots. He has great everything else that is suppose to be a good show bird but those blue spots. I would appreciate imput from those that are more experienced in showing, genetics and breeding for this particular color.

Thanks for your time

 

[Fur N Feathers]

I have what was suppose to be a paint silkie but he had blue spots instead of black. Is this another color? I've shown him as a paint and he's won till the last show and there was a paint that had black spots right next to my guy with blue spots. Mine is white with blue spots. He isn't a splash but more like a blue paint. Does anybody know if this could be the beginning of another color or is it out there already? That last show he was in he got 2nd place still but he is not the paint that I wanted. I love him anyway and if I can convince him to breed I would like to try to get more like him.



The pics aren't the best quality but other than the blue spots his other feathers are white. No blue hue to them at all. Just like a paint would have white feathers with black spots. He has great everything else that is suppose to be a good show bird but those blue spots. I would appreciate imput from those that are more experienced in showing, genetics and breeding for this particular color.

Thanks for your time

There is a blue paint, at least it has been mentioned in the Paint thread. I like your boy a LOT by the way. I think you can get black spots by crossing him with a true black hen. Check that thread out for the best advice.