Silkie breeding, genetics & showing

[Denise661]

What is the stuff stuck to her beak? is it just food?

No, it had really bad "fowl pox" but its getting Much, much better.

 

[Me & Jack]

Ok guys well I'm back from the show...I DID have a good time even though it was a very long day....
This is how my day went ... It was a 'Double show' ???? Well I soon found our what that meant...it meant that they judge all the birds twice... One set of judges in the morning on the blue tickets, then take those off and one set of judges in the afternoon on the white tickets????
my paint cockerel got 1st...but there was only one AOV paint cockerel so that doesn't count ...

Ginger (orange frosting girl) and her sister (my. Avatar) I entered as AOV...the first judge awarded them 2nd and 3rd out of 6 and then the judge in the afternoon disqualified them and wrote on the cards ... AOV is NOT a variety...! I did not know I had to enter them as a paint or porcelain or whatever...I thought someone would have said to me on my enter form???
Then my splash girl came first out of 6 poulets and BV in the morning and I was super excited but then in the afternoon the other judge disqualified her ??? Saying he could feel one hip higher than the other but you couldn't see it by looking at her...so he said??? I couldn't see what he was talking about but I am a novice so I just accepted it...I was bummed....
But I meet some nice people, saw some great birds...but I was bummed to go from 1st place to nothing!
Are 'double shows' usual?

Oh, congrats!! I'd say that was a really good outing -- was it your first show?

The DQs you entered as AOV just goes to show what I was saying the other day about unrecognized varieties being shown -- and the fact that one judge placed them and the other DQ'd also goes to show how judges don't always agree on the SOP and what it means, although they're supposed to. Unfortunately, as in the case of your girl with the "high hip", you always have to accept what the judge says. Do your best to feel for what he's talking about, since "where there's smoke there's usually fire", as the saying goes. Show the bird again, though, and see what the next judge says.

As for there being double shows, it's fairly common, actually. I kind of like it -- get two shows in one.

Anyhow, congrats again. I think that was a great showing and I think you should feel proud. Doesn't it make you want to go again ASAP!? LOL

 

[peepblessed]

Oh, congrats!! I'd say that was a really good outing -- was it your first show?

The DQs you entered as AOV just goes to show what I was saying the other day about unrecognized varieties being shown -- and the fact that one judge placed them and the other DQ'd also goes to show how judges don't always agree on the SOP and what it means, although they're supposed to. Unfortunately, as in the case of your girl with the "high hip", you always have to accept what the judge says. Do your best to feel for what he's talking about, since "where there's smoke there's usually fire", as the saying goes. Show the bird again, though, and see what the next judge says.

As for there being double shows, it's fairly common, actually. I kind of like it -- get two shows in one.

Anyhow, congrats again. I think that was a great showing and I think you should feel proud. Doesn't it make you want to go again ASAP!? LOL

I would be very proud also! What a great first outing!!

 

[peepblessed]

Boy or girl? Its about 6 months.

Girl!!

 

[dwegg]

Thanks for the encouragement Me & Jack, and peepblessed... I did think I had a pretty good showing until the afternoon when they all got disqualified...lol...yes I will show my splash again and see what the next judge says...will be interesting...

But I wanted to take a photo of the card with my silkie as it was my first win but they didn't take the isle ropes away before they took the cards down...

 

[littlecritters]

Here are a few pics of the wings on our black silkies that are approximately 17 weeks old. I am concerned with the quality of the feathers, especially the ones that consist of only a quill and also the feathers that appear on just one side of the quills. Would these feathers be considered a fault or even a DQ?

I think some of these birds also have weak wings, as they look split when gently spread open. BTW, these birds have amazing foot feathering. I just wish their wings looked as good as their feet.

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[littlecritters]

I thought you might like to see these pics of a splash cockerel that has a "bad" comb. He is 18 weeks old and is being rehomed...

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[Sonoran Silkies]

Quote: Serama folks tend to enter unrecognized varieties as AOV without specifying WHAT the variety is, and there are a LOT of folks who do not like that. I am one. NAME the variety, regardless of whether it is recognized or not. Not naming the variety is a LOT of what the article in Poultry Press a few months ago was about. Judges are SUPPOSED TO KNOW which varieties are and are not recognized for EVERY BREED. The test to become a judge is HARD!!! They have to know the standard for EVERY RECOGNIZED BREED. If they do not, they DO NOT PASS THE TEST. Forgetting it later is NO EXCUSE! Some judges are better than others, some are pickier, some have specific things they are picky about, etc.

Some shows tend to be double shows every year, others do not. In 13 years I have only been to one show that was a double. I have heard about rabbit shows that were triple and quad shows.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

I thought you might like to see these pics of a splash cockerel that has a "bad" comb. He is 18 weeks old and is being rehomed...

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It is not the "best" comb I have ever seen, but it is far from "bad." Certainly not a reason to rehome him as a pet.

 

[Hawkeye95]

Serama folks tend to enter unrecognized varieties as AOV without specifying WHAT the variety is, and there are a LOT of folks who do not like that. I am one. NAME the variety, regardless of whether it is recognized or not. Not naming the variety is a LOT of what the article in Poultry Press a few months ago was about. Judges are SUPPOSED TO KNOW which varieties are and are not recognized for EVERY BREED. The test to become a judge is HARD!!! They have to know the standard for EVERY RECOGNIZED BREED. If they do not, they DO NOT PASS THE TEST. Forgetting it later is NO EXCUSE! Some judges are better than others, some are pickier, some have specific things they are picky about, etc.

Some shows tend to be double shows every year, others do not. In 13 years I have only been to one show that was a double. I have heard about rabbit shows that were triple and quad shows.

Great info, Sonoran!! Thank you! I will be setting up and assigning cage cards for our county barn from now on and I have a LOT to learn!

It is not the "best" comb I have ever seen, but it is far from "bad." Certainly not a reason to rehome him as a pet.

Also good to know! I would have thought the same thing. But you said something similar about one of my roosters that had an overly large comb, but great texture. And guess what??! ALL of his offspring have had very small and beautiful combs! Combs must be easier to breed out with a good bird? I was afraid I'd end up with huge combs on everyone, but that didn't happen at all.
Here he is with badly sunburned feathers and his HUGE comb!

But I've got some older cockerels out of him and they are showing no signs of their combs getting this large!

OH-- of course I must add that I am using a couple of hens that have fantastic combs. VERY tiny-- almost not even there and very, very dark in color. They really offset him very well.