SILKIE FEATHERING INFORMATION WANTED!!!

[chickenwhisperer123]

So the best silkie is pretty much the worst one?

- poor foot feathering
- single comb
- light skin
- 4 toes
- no crest

Can you guys think of any better breeds then a brahma to use? I have partridge cochins, but I think silkie cochins are getting more common..
Any better ideas?

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

I think using a brahma is a grand idea--you can find birds with good feathering but lacking in the traits you don't want--what could be more perfect?

 

[Poulets De Cajun]

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I dont think so. They are supposed to be straight up vertical, and not leaning forward. This was stressed by a few Jap breeders when I first started.

I digress... I was wrong... WOW! It is supposed to actually be forward...

"Very large and upright, slightly forward of perpendicular (almost touching head)" From http://japanesebantam.org/mainBreed1.htm

 

[chickenwhisperer123]

Well I have silkie chicks, and one dark brahma pullet (same age.) How many generations would be needed to get silkie offspring?

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

I read the standard before I posted.

JAPANESE BANTAM
Shape of Male
"TAIL: Very large and upright, carried in so erect a position as to almost contact the back of the head, slightly forward of perpendicular."

Shape of Female
"TAIL: Very large and upright, carried in an upright position so as to almost contact the back of the head, slightly forward of perpendicular."​

 

[Poulets De Cajun]

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Yeah I was just reading it also. I was wrong... I apologize! All this time I thought slightly forward was a fault! Glad I'm not still breeding Japs... LOL

 

[MoodyChicken]

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I dont think so. They are supposed to be straight up vertical, and not leaning forward. This was stressed by a few Jap breeders when I first started.

I digress... I was wrong... WOW! It is supposed to actually be forward...

"Very large and upright, slightly forward of perpendicular (almost touching head)" From http://japanesebantam.org/mainBreed1.htm

Squirrel tail is a 90+ degree angle of the tail. So even straight up is squirreled.

It's even more noticable in Seramas, especially those of the Dragon type.

 

[chickenwhisperer123]

whats the "dragon" type?

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

Two generations until you have silkie brahmas

If you use grey silkies with dark brahmas, the colours should not need work, or at least not much!

Get at least two of each (to make two pairs), and breed them together: silkie hen to brahma cock, silkie cock to brahma hen. All these F1 offspring will have one copy of h. They will be Hh. From each group select the ones closest to your goal and pair with a bird from the other group. Their F2 offspring should result in 25% silkied brahmas (hh), 25% who are HH and 50% who are Hh. You won't be able to tell which are Hh and which are HH.

Take your 25% hh's and breed them to improve brahma type and features. I know for a fact (experience) that brahmaXsilkie's are closer in type to a brahma than to a silkie.

Now I'm getting all excited about this--I do NOT need another project!!!

 

[chickenwhisperer123]

Dang it!! well I can get a dark brahma rooster (chick) as Im getting a shipment in 2 weeks from Ideal. They are sold out of grey silkies though.... How could I get grey silkies?


So I would breed the offspring of both pairs together to get the percentages you listed?