Silkie thread!

[Christie Loves Silkies]

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Cuteeeeeeeee!

 

[Christie Loves Silkies]

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Cute photos!

 

[emvickrey]

I have a question for those that know the breeding genetics. Could I get a Lavender from a blue roo and what I call a lav splash? Here are their pics.

 

[mshuey1]

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Go to lavender silkies thread theyve been talking about that the past few days. Lots of great info there

 

[ScaredOfShadows]

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If I am correct you have to have 2 lavender copies to get lavender. both parent birds have to have a copy of the actual lavender gene to get an actual lavender colored offspring. a lavender to another color with give you a "split" which carries 1 copy. breed these splits (1 gene carriers) together to a percentage of lavender chicks. your splash is a blue splash - I have never heard of a lavender splash, lavender is a very definitive solid and uniform color. Your splash has regular blue markings, definately no lavender there unless it is a split carrying the hidden Lav gene. sorry

 

[emvickrey]

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Go to lavender silkies thread theyve been talking about that the past few days. Lots of great info there

Thanks

 

[ScaredOfShadows]

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Looking at a post Sonoran did on the Lav thread - lavender splash is really carrying lavender with a double blue gene. so its essentially a splash bird with hidden lavender. (if I understood - it still LOOKS like a regular blue splash ) - but if your splash carries lavender you would have to breed to another bird that carries lavender as lavender and blue are two seperate colors/genes. you can not get lavender from blue unless the blue is a split for lavender (carrying a gene from a lavender parent) Split X Split = % of lavenders % of splits and a % of non-lavenders (not splits) but then you have the issue of not knowing who is a carrier of the Lav gene and who is not.

 

[emvickrey]

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If I am correct you have to have 2 lavender copies to get lavender. both parent birds have to have a copy of the actual lavender gene to get an actual lavender colored offspring. a lavender to another color with give you a "split" which carries 1 copy. breed these splits (1 gene carriers) together to a percentage of lavender chicks. your splash is a blue splash - I have never heard of a lavender splash, lavender is a very definitive solid and uniform color. Your splash has regular blue markings, definately no lavender there unless it is a split carrying the hidden Lav gene. sorry

I've seen so many different looking birds and they where all called splash it's hard to distinguish exactly the difference. I'm still trying to learn about all this and it sure gets confusing.

The reason i'm asking is i've got chicks that look lavender to me but again, it's all confusing to me still. They are very light in color and so far I see no spots on them. They're actually the color of the chicks posted here
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=7751891#p7751891
post 3327. Mine just have their primaries so it's still early to really tell but i've never gotten any the same color as these are turning out to be. I have a lousy camera or I would show a pic but the color mine are right now anyway is the same as the chick on that post.

The parents are suppose to have the lav gene also. I hatched them from CJ's eggs.

 

[ScaredOfShadows]

you talking about I have happy hen's chicks? yeah they are lavender, but I do have chicks that are splash that hatch out that base color. - its early to tell. just hold off a few weeks and see if they start developing splashes or not.

Also even if the parents possibly were lavender does not mean they inherited lavender genes, it is unknown until they have enough offspring to produce a percentage of actual visible lavender offspring.

and yes I know genetics are mind boggling - lol I'm just learning the basics.

 

[emvickrey]

Yes it is very confusing. I'm one of those people that have to learn by experience and guidence by those that DO KNOW what they're doing. lol

Ever since I decided Silkies is what I want to raise I've been learning there is SOOO much to learn. At first they got my attention by their looks. When I managed to hatch some I love their antics and how easy they are to get along with others. I can actually put chicks in with the adults and they don't kill them. My roos are very protective over the chicks even though their hens didn't hatch them and the hens are like.......they all teach them and keep them in line. It's not one specific hen that tends to them, they all do. When I had RIR's and EE's and I tried to put some younger pullets in their pen they would go after them for the kill. But not silkies or sizzles. There are so many good things I can say about them but learning the genetics is hard.
I understand the parts about carrying the gene and the gene that shows up and the one that don't. And that it would take alot of chicks for a particular gene to even show in just 1 chick. Then you would take that chick and breed it with another bird that either carried or shows that particular gene. It's like it would take a very long time to actually get a breeding pair that produced all chicks the color you are looking for. Sometimes it seems it would just be better to buy the birds of the color instead of all the hatching. But I have the hatching fever and not the cash fever.

As long as DH remains an enabler I'll keep doing what i'm doing.
My sizzles produced a laced grey, well another one and DH just loves Noel. She was the first laced grey sizzle. My last batch is getting their curled feathers and one is showing some lacing. I showed him and he staked claim to it right away. There is going to be many disappointed people when they see I have another that isn't for sale in the spring. I sure hope he don't do that again if we get another.

Anyway, thanks for everybody's help. I just need to be patient and wait to see what happens.