Silkie thread!

This is what my "white" pullet is turning into...she is getting more "red" as she ages. Thanks for the answers....
So, should I just cull, or is she breedable with something? I only have white, buff, bbs & partridge.

Sometimes the expression can go against all basic color genetic rules !

You have to know there are different kinds of "red".
There is the gold indicated by the symbol "s+:" which is sex-linked, there is the Autosomale red sometimes indicated by the symbol "Ar", there is the Salmon-red as on the chest of e+ hens or as on the entire body of eWh hens, there are as many different kinds of red as there are different proteins that produce it. So "red" is complicated stuff !!

This white hen here, leaking red, should be a mix with unpure ground-color eWh/e+ based on s+/- not completely overtaken by the epistatic recessive gene c/c =>resulting in this phenotype.

Just know this is an exception on the basic color genetic rules !!!
 
mama2my4 - I saw your paint roo for sale and I would LOVE to have him, but I am no where near PA. I would be willing to pay shipping if you change your mind. I also understand about the worries of shipping such a pretty boy.

Funny thing is we just moved from NC. I think it is probably too hot to ship there now, right? I mean, I would be willing to give it a shot if the temps were good.


That is so weird. Where in NC were you located? The weather is has been strange it was like 80+ in March and then early this month in the 70's. It looks like the rest of the week is mid 80's
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. Does not look like a break untill the first of the month. Last week and until today it was in the mid 70's. Figures my luck. If things change maybe I can contact you via pm and see if he is still available. I really dont know what a good temp is but when I walk out I am hot.
 
Funny thing is we just moved from NC. I think it is probably too hot to ship there now, right? I mean, I would be willing to give it a shot if the temps were good.


That is so weird. Where in NC were you located? The weather is has been strange it was like 80+ in March and then early this month in the 70's. It looks like the rest of the week is mid 80's
sad.png
. Does not look like a break untill the first of the month. Last week and until today it was in the mid 70's. Figures my luck. If things change maybe I can contact you via pm and see if he is still available. I really dont know what a good temp is but when I walk out I am hot.

We were in Charlotte.

Sure, keep an eye on the 10 days and lets see what happens.
 
Thank you for the patience in explaining the color genetics. The painted wall example along with the following was very helpful.

Indeed it's kind of as painting a wall, but first you must look what kind of wall it is !

Basic color genetics in a nutshell !

Every chicken haven a "ground-color" (= a base pattern), this is one of the 5 possibilities on the E-locus (= were these 5 can be located).
The ground-color can be "pure" (= homozygous).
E/E is called Extended Black, ER/ER is called Birchen, eWh/eWh is called wheaten, eb/eb is called Asiatic Partridge, e+/e+ is called Bankiva Partridge.
(The ground-color can also be "unpure (= heterozygous), I not go deeper on this to not make things complicater as necessary to understand the BASICS).

This ground-color (the base pattern) is based on gold s+/s+ for males or s+/- for females [COLOR=FF0000]OR[/COLOR] on his mutant Silver S/S for males or S/- for females (this is a sex-linked gene).
Chickens with a ground-color based on gold have a base pattern consisting out of Black and gold, these based on Silver have a base pattern consiting out of Black and Silver (Silver we see as white)

This ground color based on gold or Silver can be affected by different other color-genes.

These other color-genes can be diluters, intensifiers, restrictors, inhibitors. Some of them inhirit in a Dominant way, others in a recessive way, or in an epistatic way, or in an incomplete Dominant way or in a sex-linked way.

So when you look at your chickens color/pattern always start by the ground-color     (1 of the 5 "E"-forms) which is based on gold or Silver and [COLOR=FF0000]ONLY THAN[/COLOR] you look at the color-genes that affect this totality "E & S".


PS you could see "E & S" is the wall, the other color-genes affecting it are the different paints ;)
 
here is my newest pic of silkie:

(still a roo guys??) about 3ish-4ish or sorta months old...


Really looks like a boy to me. That comb is kind of big for his age. But hey, maybe "she" will grow into it?? I don't know. Hopefully I'm wrong, but my bet would be a rooster. If he is 4 months already, you'll know soon enough, mine start crowing around 4-5 months.
 

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