Silver Appleyard versus Snowy?

Anyone have example pics of the Snowy Calls drakes vs. Appleyard Calls drakes ? Anyway positive way to tell differences in the drakes in these two call varieties ?
 
Does these look like Silver Appleyard drakes ? Anyone ?
These were sold to me as Silver Appleyards, I just want to make sure that is what they are.
I noticed the white under the bills coming in, not sure if that is a determining factor of appleyards though.

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One next to a Chocolate
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the first 2 pictures... snowy drake....take a look at the back color on the snowy vs the silver appleyard....this is one way to tell

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Silver appleyard call drake....notice the "silver" color on the back and they do get the white under the bill

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Really! Wow, that is interesting. I thought for sure that Brice had posted that on one of the duck groups. I will have to go back and try to find it. That doesn't surprise me though at all. There are a lot of breeds and colors in the duck world that people have not disclosed the origins of or been entirely forthcoming about the history of.

Editing to add: Okay, I found the message I was thinking of (was easier than I thought it would be, LOL). What is funny is that it is actually a response Brice made to Jerry (Mr. Turbo?)... I started to post it here and fill in the blanks with some of what I know from breeding the other bantam ducks, but I don't want to totally go off topic for Bacres' thread. Let me know if you want me to post it in a different thread. It might be interesting information.

got it.....sorry to bring up an old post. Butters were made with a snowy and pastel, but the snowy must have carried the appleyard pattern somewhere. Straight from Brice.
 
Mrs. Turbo :

the first 2 pictures... snowy drake....take a look at the back color on the snowy vs the silver appleyard....this is one way to tell

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/21841_087.jpg

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/21841_204.jpg

Silver appleyard call drake....notice the "silver" color on the back and they do get the white under the bill

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/21841_218.jpg

Thank you so much Mrs. Turbo
That really helps and they do have the silver on their backs..
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no problem......
the hens can have different looks to them.
some are darker and some are lighter....some show more brown and some show more of the white.

here is the pullet I had at the Shawnee show....the other one is in the background.

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the top 2 are silver appleyard hens, the lighter one below them is a snowy hen

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