Sitting with a cup of coffee. (coffee lovers)

[perchie.girl]

Hi Deb

GREAT JOB!!!
Getting healthy isn't only about the numbers on a scale, tho it does help. The way I deal with exercise is the way my dietician explained it to me. Exercise is any intentional movement whether aerobic or anaerobic that is outside your normal routine. Applying that philosophy has made it easier for me to want to "exercise". For example, I "exercised" today by using a handsaw to prune the trees around the yard. My dietician has been a huge help getting me unstuck and back on track with my weight loss. Total of 30 lbs so far.
Do you have to be a member to use the percentage thingy?

Yep. The tracking is good though you dont just track food you track exercise there is a journal you track weight and can print it out. It will do a download for a spreadsheet too. But all the areas are interactive. You can even write your own recipe and have it count up how many points.


This is my progress for the day to the right are favorite foods

deb

 

[chickisoup]

Deb-do you know if WW has a program for diabetics? I found out the hard way this past spring that the TKI chemo drugs I take for the CML can reek havoc with your pancreas and cause you to develop T2 diabetes just like the other cancer treatments can. So now a lot of what is "legal" on the traditional WW program is a no no for me.

 

[chickisoup]

Changes to Antibiotics Regulations Coming December 2016

By Dr. Mike Apley

The discussion of antibiotic use in food animals continues to get a lot of attention as new regulations are scheduled to take effect.
Per the last update from Dr. Mike Apley, professor of veterinary clinical sciences at Kansas State University, two guidance documents, #209 and #213 have been released by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) Center for Veterinary Medicine. The first document stated two principles for which the FDA Center for Veterinary Medicine sought voluntary compliance from the pharmaceutical industry. These two principles are:
1. The use of medically important antimicrobial drugs in food-producing animals should be limited to those uses that are considered necessary for assuring animal health.
2. The use of medically important antimicrobial drugs in food producing animals should be limited to those uses that include veterinary oversight or consultation.
Guidance #213 defined how the goals of guidance #209 could be met by the sponsors. Pharmaceutical companies had 90 days from the release of #213 to voluntarily commit to the new regulations. After this, companies had three years to fully withdraw growth promotion claims from their labels.
Since the guidance was put into effect in December of 2013, all 26 companies representing the 283 affected labels came forward voluntarily to cooperate. The status of the affected labels can be viewed on the FDA Center for Veterinary Medicine website at http://1.usa.gov/192vWfT.
According to Apley, there are two big challenges that the industry will face due to these new regulations.
1. How do we get it all done?
2. Should we get it all done?
The biggest takeaway for producers in this discussion, Apley said, is to have a veterinarian that knows your operation.
“As of December 2016, a veterinarian will have to authorize any antibiotic use in the feed except for the ionophores (Rumensin, Bovatec, Catalyst), the bambermycins (Gainpro), bacitracin (BMD, Baciferm), and tiamulin (Denegard, used in swine). All other antibiotics used in the feed are classified as “medically important” (based off of importance in human medicine) and will require a veterinary feed directive (VFD), which requires knowledge of the client’s operation.”
This means that a VFD will be required for any type of medicated feed containing a medically important antibiotic, including medicated milk replacer and even small quantities of feed for home-raised animals, such as show cattle. The details of what constitutes a “free choice feed” in a range situation are still being worked out, but it is clear that range mineral and range cubes will be included in the requirements. To buy any of the feed types (Type A, Type B, Type C), a producer will need a VFD to purchase the product. Type A feeds are the most concentrated forms of the drug and are designed to be incorporated in a premix before inclusion in a final ration. Type B feeds are premixes, which include the drug in a form ready to be incorporated into the final ration. Type C feeds are the final ration ready for feeding.
In addition, all water antibiotics will require a prescription as of December 2016. Unless your local farm store wants to go through the process of becoming authorized to dispense drugs on the basis of a prescription, then these water soluble antibiotics will most likely disappear from their shelves. The same is true for medicated milk replacer and medicated feeds if they contain a medically important antibiotic.
These requirements for veterinary authorization of medically important antibiotics in feed and water have led to questions of how veterinarians will get all of the authorizations done.
“But, another big change is not just who is responsible for authorizing the use of medically important antibiotics in feed and water, but also who is accountable,” Apley said. “Currently, a veterinarian may function in an advisory status concerning antibiotics in feed, but often a nutritionist is leading decisions concerning tylosin, oxytetracycline, or chlortetracycline in feed. Now, a veterinarian must authorize these uses, and is therefore accountable for what happens. The veterinarian is now in the position of determining when an in-feed antibiotic use is appropriate, such as indications and timing of a tetracycline product, and whether or not the use is clinically justified.”
The final VFD rule is expected out this spring, and then veterinary groups such as the Academy of Veterinary Consultants and the American Association of Bovine Practitioners, producer organizations, regulatory officials, and even state legislators will need to put their heads together to refine the details of how all of this will get done. The details of the veterinary oversight are left up to the states.
You should expect a lot of updates and information coming out on this subject, especially in 2016 as the time for change draws near. There is no reason to change at the current time, as the drug labels must change, which will most likely be phased in over a short period near the end of 2016.


This is going to be a total disaster for anyone who uses antibiotics for their backyard flocks or other backyard "pets" that don't have access (like me) to a vet that will treat poultry or other "farm" animals.

 

[perchie.girl]

Deb-do you know if WW has a program for diabetics? I found out the hard way this past spring that the TKI chemo drugs I take for the CML can reek havoc with your pancreas and cause you to develop T2 diabetes just like the other cancer treatments can. So now a lot of what is "legal" on the traditional WW program is a no no for me.

Yep it does... originally it followed the diabetic diet suggestions... now its better.

But let me verify... well no.... not specifically but you eat what you want and count the points. If you arent allowed say Apples or specific things Just dont eat em.... Type 2 is a bit easier to manage than type 1...

Here is a visual.... https://www.weightwatchers.com/us/eat

For Diebetes I imagine you have to watch your carbs... you can do this... I think the only specific diet program that cant be done with weight watchers is Atkins.

But you can do low carb and Low gluten even vegitarian with weight watchers. You might also call and talk with a counselor...

the online tools also include an online coach which will help you through any food questions you have...

deb "who is taking some ME time for a nap next" Part of the whole health exercises me time can be anything... for me its a nap. this week the focus from the lecture is working in exercise... by definition exercise is only doing something extra in the way of movement during the day... For me its walking a bit more without my walker... for another person It could be doing an extra lap in the swimming pool... or isometrics in the car.

 

[perchie.girl]

Changes to Antibiotics Regulations Coming December 2016

By Dr. Mike Apley

The discussion of antibiotic use in food animals continues to get a lot of attention as new regulations are scheduled to take effect.
"original snipped for space"
You should expect a lot of updates and information coming out on this subject, especially in 2016 as the time for change draws near. There is no reason to change at the current time, as the drug labels must change, which will most likely be phased in over a short period near the end of 2016.


This is going to be a total disaster for anyone who uses antibiotics for their backyard flocks or other backyard "pets" that don't have access (like me) to a vet that will treat poultry or other "farm" animals.

I use a horse vet and it would be wise for everyone who can to locate a large animal vet in your area... even if you dont think that there are any just go to the feed store and see if you can find one. My horse vet will treat any animal that is on the farm.... goats sheep cows.... even the farm dog and cat.. basic meds like vaccinations... Usually on a ranch call. They dont have an office they work out of their vetrinary truck. So ranch calls cost a flat fee to drive out... Most boarding stables will have a sign up sheet for vaccinations wormings floatings sheath cleanings and etc...

But some do have offices where they can do some work. The one I use has a mini hospital and treated my Miss Dewdrop for pneumonia kept her over night then sent me home with sub Q injections of antibiotics as a follow up.

Many dont do chickens but will look up the treatment and sell you the medicines that are necessary. this is in California.

I personally dont medicate. Not even my horse. once she got out of the boarding situation... her exposure to germs is minimal.

deb

 

[Alaskan]

Could we still grab drugs for dogs and cat? (And then use them on the chickens)

 

[chickendreams24]

Edited BC I'm an idjit and "pasted" in the wrong spot

 

[chickisoup]

Could we still grab drugs for dogs and cat? (And then use them on the chickens)

we're all right with the "normal" stuff, wormers, etc. My guess is because of the certified dispenser requirement, nobody is going to carry any antibiotics, period.

Deb - I live in logging country. The last large animal vet in the entire county ( and in at least a 100 mile radius, no kidding) retired and sold his practice to a female vet who is very good but way over charges to pay for all her new equipment and charity work and she specializes in cats!!!! I asked once and they even refused todo a fecal float for worms on my chickens. Not see them mind you just do a float for me.

 

[perchie.girl]

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Dang.... are there any vets other than her to "chat up" and convince ....?

deb

 

[Alaskan]

Wow!!!!!


You would think that any vet would do a fecal float!