Sled dog breeding

[dainerra]

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the part about not training until they are full grown is totally false. Training starts as soon as the pup comes home. Basic things like wearing a harness, obedience as needed, then when a few months old, pulling light objects like milk jugs and slowly advancing to pieces of 2x4 and on up. No, you won't train them on an actual weighted down sled until older, but if you wait until they are 2-3 years old (full grown) to start training, the dog will be old enough to retire before it is a reliable worker.

 

[Starfire669]

What?? Who u talking to? If its me yes her names nala, I trained her since she's was 8 weeks, we don't have a fence and she's gets let out freely unless she's in heat or is not wearing her collar that has her tags on it. Never had a problem, she's a Beautyful red b*tch unspayed and soon to be mom. Brother is planning on breeding her next heat. She's 2 1/2 years old. She's my 4-h dog comes from sled dog and show lines. Both parents were taken off a team and showed for 2yrs then got finished GCH. Then they breed, nala is my sled dog, she's a well natured, loving girl. I know some about the breed. We have been showing 4-h dog showd since she was 10months. She's got 1 champ in Rally-O, 2 showmanship Reserve champs, 1 white in obedience, 1red in obedience and I'm planning on doing AKC junior showmanship classes with her soon. I spend 4hrs ever weekend grooming her non stop. And she's not even the woolly. I know how stubborn they are. Like I said above I TRAINED NALA from day one. No one helped, I "co own" nala, at on point my brother just gave her to me, but he was really wanting her back. I know how nmuch this would cost.

Ok question, do you own more than 1 Siberian husky? Is this the same Nala you talked about on a different thread months ago?

Ahh found it, yes this is the same dog, I copied a quote from you and pasted below. I would say that your dog's kill count is a big problem. I think you also stated that your dog "played" with the calves of a cattle farmer not to far from you. You asked me for advice on containment for your dog, and I showed pictures of how I built my dog pen. I am guessing, since Nala is still roaming lose that you have not built her a pen, or attempted to chain her. I would advise you to work on containing and controlling the dog you currently have before getting any more. If she can rack up such a high kill count, imagine what a whole team can do. In such circumstances it would not be long before people such as that cattle farmer start employing SSS (shoot, shovel, and shut up) to take care of the problem.

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Originally Posted by SternRose View Post

This is my beautiful husky *****(technical term) ;

NaLa 2 years 3 months. Killed 3 turky hens, 4 ducks, 5 ducklings, 2 roo's, 3 wild rabbits. But I love this dog, she's my 4-h show dog. Only resin we still have her. Today she almost killed my RIR roo. IF YOU SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT ME OR MY BABY.... I WILL REPORT!!!

 

[Americano Blue]

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i know that, I thought you meant like running in a team. sorry, my bad

 

[Americano Blue]

She has some good points. Mushing is NOT CHEEP. Most good sled dogs only have a career of 5 years.
you have a few things wrong though. Training in harness doesn't start until they are full grown (or at least not typically) Usually i would not suggest getting your entire team from shelter. maybe 2 or 3 but since the OP is only planing on rec, it should work. sled dogs live outside all year so shedding isn't a huge problem they dog need a brushing in spring and early summer. If you get dogs from shelters, most are fixed so you couldn't breed which isn't a problem for rec.

this is a typical sled dog housing set so fences and stuff aren't really necessary.

Dogs escaping one of reasons i like alaskan huskies. if they get out (unlike sibs) they will come back if possible. i do have a fence surrounding the yard which is useful if one does get of the chain

i forgot to add, having a team of both male and female dogs is, personally, the best way and fixed dogs are typically calmer when running in a team, trust me on this. if you don't believe me, try running 6-16 dogs, male and female all unfixed, with just ONE dog in heat... good luck.

 

[Starfire669]

i forgot to add, having a team of both male and female dogs is, personally, the best way and fixed dogs are typically calmer when running in a team, trust me on this. if you don't believe me, try running 6-16 dogs, male and female all unfixed, with just ONE dog in heat... good luck.

That's putting it mildly. I currently have 2 females in heat. When the first female went into heat, she set the other female off as well. So all intact females will come into heat slightly staggered, but close to the same time. My 2 girls started 10 days apart. I currently have the 2 females in heat and the intact male all in separate kennels. But they are trying to break out, crying and whining, trying to get at each other. Also, just because a male is neutered does not mean he isn't attracted to a female in heat, or is incapable of getting tied with the female. Having multiple breeding females is a very difficult situation that needs to be handled with care, or accidental pregnancies or fights will occur. 2, or more, b**ches in season at the same time will fight each other for the right to mate, same is true of multiple males. Personally, when my females are in heat, they do not leave my property and they are supervised 100% of the time.

So I agree that someone just starting with mushing should get spayed or neutered dogs to start with.

 

[Americano Blue]

That's putting it mildly. I currently have 2 females in heat. When the first female went into heat, she set the other female off as well. So all intact females will come into heat slightly staggered, but close to the same time. My 2 girls started 10 days apart. I currently have the 2 females in heat and the intact male all in separate kennels. But they are trying to break out, crying and whining, trying to get at each other. Also, just because a male is neutered does not mean he isn't attracted to a female in heat, or is incapable of getting tied with the female. Having multiple breeding females is a very difficult situation that needs to be handled with care, or accidental pregnancies or fights will occur. 2, or more, b**ches in season at the same time will fight each other for the right to mate, same is true of multiple males. Personally, when my females are in heat, they do not leave my property and they are supervised 100% of the time.

So I agree that someone just starting with mushing should get spayed or neutered dogs to start with.

true even fixed dogs like a female in heat. my alaskan husky is in heat right now, and dogs i didn't even know lived in our neighbor hood have been checking her out.

 

[Starfire669]

true even fixed dogs like a female in heat. my alaskan husky is in heat right now, and dogs i didn't even know lived in our neighbor hood have been checking her out.

Tell me about it. There is a local stray pack that lives up the road. The sheriff and animal control won't do anything about them. These dogs have torn through chain link fences to get at a neighbor's dog when she was in heat. They have also killed chickens, other dogs in their owners fenced yards, and bitten a 15 year old boy walking home from school. When we call and complain, we get the same answer, "if it gets in your yard shoot it". So right now I have my gun loaded and on me when I take either female out for a potty break. Otherwise the females are kept inside the house, in a crate or separate room, where I can keep a close eye on them. We do NOT want a surprise pregnancy here, so are taking all the precautions we can.

 

[SternRose]

Ok question, do you own more than 1 Siberian husky? Is this the same Nala you talked about on a different thread months ago?

Ahh found it, yes this is the same dog, I copied a quote from you and pasted below. I would say that your dog's kill count is a big problem. I think you also stated that your dog "played" with the calves of a cattle farmer not to far from you. You asked me for advice on containment for your dog, and I showed pictures of how I built my dog pen. I am guessing, since Nala is still roaming lose that you have not built her a pen, or attempted to chain her. I would advise you to work on containing and controlling the dog you currently have before getting any more. If she can rack up such a high kill count, imagine what a whole team can do. In such circumstances it would not be long before people such as that cattle farmer start employing SSS (shoot, shovel, and shut up) to take care of the problem.

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Originally Posted by SternRose View Post

This is my beautiful husky *****(technical term) ;

NaLa 2 years 3 months. Killed 3 turky hens, 4 ducks, 5 ducklings, 2 roo's, 3 wild rabbits. But I love this dog, she's my 4-h show dog. Only resin we still have her. Today she almost killed my RIR roo. IF YOU SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT ME OR MY BABY.... I WILL REPORT!!!

She broke her last chain. And she doesn't leave the yard much any more. When she does leave the yard she's ether running with the nebors lab, or investigating coyots dens. And no not yet, I might be getting one of Nala's pups when my brother breeds her.

 

[SternRose]

Tell me about it. There is a local stray pack that lives up the road. The sheriff and animal control won't do anything about them. These dogs have torn through chain link fences to get at a neighbor's dog when she was in heat. They have also killed chickens, other dogs in their owners fenced yards, and bitten a 15 year old boy walking home from school. When we call and complain, we get the same answer, "if it gets in your yard shoot it". So right now I have my gun loaded and on me when I take either female out for a potty break. Otherwise the females are kept inside the house, in a crate or separate room, where I can keep a close eye on them. We do NOT want a surprise pregnancy here, so are taking all the precautions we can.

I have a mini Wienner dog and she's unspayed( sisters dog) and she almost was killed by the nebiors male dog( he's in tact). She was on her chain and he came ove dad got the shot gun a shot the dogs tail off. He didnt mean to. But when Nala's in heat, we walk her cuz she "plays" with the male dogs when she's not in heat.

 

[Starfire669]

She broke her last chain. And she doesn't leave the yard much any more. When she does leave the yard she's ether running with the nebors lab, or investigating coyots dens. And no not yet, I might be getting one of Nala's pups when my brother breeds her.

While it is good that she doesn't leave the yard much, she needs to be kept in your yard at all times unless she is leashed. The only difference between a pet and a predator is which side of the fence it is on. As long as your dog stays in your yard she is your pet, the moment she sets food in someone else yard, without being on a leash, she becomes a predator. It just takes 1 escape and attack to get an irate neighbor who call animal control or shoot her. Also, groups of dogs running together develop pack mentality, which is a lot like mob mentality. This can be very dangerous. The best thing you can do for your dog is to build her an escape proof pen or kennel and keep her safe at home. I am sure the last thing you want is for someone to shoot her. Use the money you were going to buy a new pup with and instead ensure the safety of the dog you already have. As long as your dog is running lose and leaving the property, she is at risk of being hit by a car, shot, or even being stolen.

Also keep in mind, as you start adding to your pack, building a team you are going to have to make each dog an enclosure. If you had 6 dogs all running lose harassing and killing livestock, your neighbors would get very angry very fast. They would shoot the dogs, call the local law enforcement to file complaints, and take you to court to cover any damages your dogs caused. Because you and your parents, as the owners of the dog, are responsible for its actions.