Sour/pendulous crop

[Eddie12109]

thank you for that. So it does seem like she is declining a bit but I’m going to try to revive her still. She still eats but i have noticed her crop doesn’t digest too well. her poops are mostly urates but sometimes she have actual poo. Could the ascites cause a block in her crop? I am thinking about putting a crop bra on her and seeing how it goes.

also if there cage are a bit dusty would that cause Ascites? Because i have noticed that the food i give ends up on the floor and that seems to cause dust. They have a sand floor and with the food it causes dust but isn’t that good for dust bathing? i just got something, its from rooster booster and it is called something like grandmas coop dust So it seems like it is good for the coops to have dust.

also a new problem: my crop bra chicken, the one who has been improving greatly, doesn’t seem to be digesting her food well. her crop is mostly empty in the morning but her poops and what she is eating is off. I usually check her crop half way through the day and it is mainly full of grains and no water or looseness at all. I give her a bit of molasses everyday with some coconut oil and i have started giving B12 from rooster booster and now i have to syringe some water just to help loosen her crop.
her poops are also weird. She poops at night very frequently, probably due to all the food she eats. But her poop mainly consists of the scratch grains she eats. We are about to change their food into something better than scratch grains but it hasn’t arrived yet.
she still has brown to it but it is filled with un digesting grains and she eats grass daily and there is un digesting grass in it as well. Is it just hard for her to digest at her age (8 years) or is there anything i can do to help her with this? I usually give lettuce and scrambled eggs as well and although she doesn’t eat as much as other things, they dont seem to appear in her poop. I am not sure if she is gaining weight yet but she is a fighter and i want to help her as much as i can.

 

[azygous]

The molasses every day isn't good. It causes the food to move through the intestines too fast tor the nutrients and vitamins to be adequately absorbed. Molasses flushes are a one time only thing when a chicken is blocked.

Ascites doesn't cause anything. Ascites is caused by organ failure. Something else causes the organ failure starting with liver disease. Feeding only scratch grains as the main diet can cause fatty liver which turns into liver disease which causes fluid to build up in the abdominal cavity which is ascites.

 

[Eddie12109]

The molasses every day isn't good. It causes the food to move through the intestines too fast tor the nutrients and vitamins to be adequately absorbed. Molasses flushes are a one time only thing when a chicken is blocked.

Ascites doesn't cause anything. Ascites is caused by organ failure. Something else causes the organ failure starting with liver disease. Feeding only scratch grains as the main diet can cause fatty liver which turns into liver disease which causes fluid to build up in the abdominal cavity which is ascites.

I will definitely stop with the molasses then. So I did cause the ascites in my previous hens which led to death for both of them?? I will send a picture of the food tomorrow, I don’t have a label but I will take a picture of what it looks like but I’m pretty sure it’s scratch grains.

 

[Eddie12109]

Would it be the corn causing it? Or just the whole thing?

 

[azygous]

Mostly the corn. Corn is mostly sugar. It's what they use to make soda pop sweet.

A diet high in carbs can lead to fat deposits on the liver. After a while, the liver becomes inefficient at filtering toxins out of the blood, and then as toxins build up, fluid accumulates in the tissues as other organs stop working efficiently.

It's a long process, but it ends in death.

We all have made mistakes that our chickens suffered the consequences for. We can learn from them and our future chickens will benefit.

 

[Eddie12109]

Is this too much corn? This is there normal feed they get

 

[azygous]

Is that a commercial feed? If so, the corn content is likely in proper proportion to the main ingredients.

 

[Eddie12109]

Yes it is, could it still cause fatty liver disease? And also one of my hens has just a fat butt and I feel like it is fatty liver disease. she has been the one laying eggs that arent formed correctly. We are getting two different food brands that have no corn or soy
I want to talk about the ascites one though, why isn’t her crop digesting?

 

[azygous]

Ascites is one symptom that you can observe since it's visible on the outside of the chicken's body. It's caused by liver failure. The liver is just one organ that fails as toxins build up in the tissues due to the liver not cleaning them up. Toxins will build up in heart, lungs, and digestive organs, creating a slow down of all of those organ functions. Crop slow-down is one of these that you can see. What you can't see is what's happening in the gizzard and the rest of the digestive tract. Things are slowing down and clogging up there, and that causes the crop not to empty as it should.