Marlon, my two oldest girls, Lexie and Ivy, are Ideal girls. I love them dearly, though each has flaws typical of some hatchery stock. Hawkeye was supposedly from McMurray and Dutch is his son with my Lexie. Together, they produced some sons and daughter who are better than their parents. ZuniBee and FrontPorchIndiana have two of Hawkeye's sons who are, IMO, excellent quality BRs. Hawkeye had a very deep body, not all that common in hatchery birds, though his barring was messy and his legs a teensy bit too short. Dutch looks just like him in body type, though he has better leg length and better barring. Mace takes after Lexie, more slender body, but both are very amiable, sweet boys. And you know how friendly Zane is.
My two youngest BR girls, Zoe and Margaret, are from Hawkeye with my Amanda. Amanda, like the rest of my BR girls, except Lex and Ivy, came from helmstead's flock.