SSS...and then bury it deeper? Did anyone see this??

[emvickrey]

We had a neighbo that would feed every dropped off dog. Although she took no responsibilities for what damage they did to the other neighbors property. They attacked out chickens and we followed the feather trail to their house and they had the nerve to claim they didn't see anything. We pointed at the feathers in their yard and they claim they didn't see those either. They where informed the dogs would be shot if seen on our property again. There was another neighbor having the same problem with the dogs. Although we never had to shoot any of them, we did hear gun shots and the dogs where gone after about a week. Apparently the other neighbor had a worse problem with them than we did. We lost 15 chickens before it was all over with. That is the only time we lost chickens to a predator in the past 11 years.

My dogs at that time would sleep with our chickens. They where in the house when the attack happened. The dogs that is. lol We had a lab and a chow mix that we still have.

 

[Orchid]

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I forgot to comment on that - but she is absolutely right, using a seeing eye dog as an example is ludicrous. They don't run off.

 

[fancbrd4me02]

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I forgot to comment on that - but she is absolutely right, using a seeing eye dog as an example is ludicrous. They don't run off.

I suggested many examples and never said it had run off...I just said what if it was one. You are missing my overall point. Try reading more carefully and analytically and you may discover that I was making a point about making snap decisions about a loose dog based on your prejudices and assumptions and without considering the circumstances or possiblities that could have led to that dog's appearence on your property. The seeing eye dog could have been stolen. Where I live dogs are stolen and used as "bait" dogs then are killed or dumped. Happens all the time.

In fact, the comments about the seeing eye dog just supports the idea that people make these decisions without looking at all the possiblities. If you had thought about it, some of you might have realized that besides running off, dogs can end up lost or abandoned in many ways.

For those of you who don't believe seeing eye or helper dogs go missing, read on. I could have posted dozens of stories, these are just a few.
http://www.marconews.com/news/2010/jan/05/lost-and-found-seeing-eye-dog-reunites-naples-owne/
http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/wxin-dog-missing-052109,0,136678.story
http://www.nola.com/forums/animals/index.ssf?artid=32644
http://www.wkyt.com/home/headlines/12552606.html
http://www.wkyt.com/home/headlines/31264839.html
http://weatherforddemocrat.com/local/x1155969322/Seizure-alert-dog-missing?keyword=topstory

 

[lishah2000]

Every situation is different and you have to decide based on the situation.

I had a young dog dig under my fence and was chasing my chickens. Didn't hurt any except the young roo that was protecting the others. He lost a lot of feathers and almost drowned in the pond (I had to swim to get him out). Dog was picked up by animal control. She came to me when I called her.

Second time she ran my kitten off and had not got to the chickens yet. She came to me again, but wasn't as friendly as the first time. Owners showed up at my gate before animal control. I was threatened, my animals were threatened and they entered my property and made advances towards me. I let the dog go for my own safety. Police were called and animal control did show up. Don't know the outcome, but both were going to visit the owners. The animal control officer was not very happy with them.

Advice from the police officer - it is well within your rights to shot it if it comes back. This was what he recommended doing. Otherwise secure the dog, if possible, and stay inside the house until they arrive.

So for me, being concerned for the dog (I made sure she was in the shade and provided water), it was a more dangerous situation.

This dog traveled through more than 20 heavily wooded acres and crossed at least 5 fences.

 

[Orchid]

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I forgot to comment on that - but she is absolutely right, using a seeing eye dog as an example is ludicrous. They don't run off.

I suggested many examples and never said it had run off...I just said what if it was one. You are missing my overall point. Try reading more carefully and analytically and you may discover that I was making a point about making snap decisions about a loose dog based on your prejudices and assumptions and without considering the circumstances or possiblities that could have led to that dog's appearence on your property. The seeing eye dog could have been stolen. Where I live dogs are stolen and used as "bait" dogs then are killed or dumped. Happens all the time.

In fact, the comments about the seeing eye dog just supports the idea that people make these decisions without looking at all the possiblities. If you had thought about it, some of you might have realized that besides running off, dogs can end up lost or abandoned in many ways.

For those of you who don't believe seeing eye or helper dogs go missing, read on. I could have posted dozens of stories, these are just a few.
http://www.marconews.com/news/2010/jan/05/lost-and-found-seeing-eye-dog-reunites-naples-owne/
http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/wxin-dog-missing-052109,0,136678.story
http://www.nola.com/forums/animals/index.ssf?artid=32644
http://www.wkyt.com/home/headlines/12552606.html
http://www.wkyt.com/home/headlines/31264839.html
http://weatherforddemocrat.com/local/x1155969322/Seizure-alert-dog-missing?keyword=topstory

Okay, I believe you. But the odds of a seeing eye dog wandering onto anyone's property and killing chickens (or anything else) are, you must admit, awfully small - and I thought that's what this thread was about, chicken killing dogs. Seeing eye dogs are not aggressive in any way, shape or form. I certainly don't just shoot any stray dog I see...in fact, I've never had to shoot ANY stray dog, period.

 

[obxWaMi]

Okay, so I think I understand the Shoot and Shut-up parts, but what does the other S stand for in SSS?

 

[Pollo Blanco]

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You understand the key points well, congrats!



**shovel**

 

[aprophet]

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I live at the hot ditch ( S branch Elizabeth river) crabs do a lot better job then a shovel!!!

 

[PunkinPeep]

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I think we're talking about dogs who are killing our chickens here, not just random dogs that happen to take a step over our property lines.

And also in response to another comment you made on this thread, i just want to say that i don't think anyone here is trying to make enemies of their neighbors either. But if (and i can only truly speak for myself) a dog - any dog - is in the process of killing my chickens or has just killed my chickens, i have an obligation to protect what is mine. It is unnatural and inconceivable to value the life of a stranger's dog over my own pets or livestock. I'm certainly not going to wait for animal control to show up and see if this dog will kill some more.

Speaking from experience, and i am one who will kill any animal that hurts my animals. Our neighbor's pit bull got loose and was chasing our chickens. We did not kill her. However, my neighbor learned, immediately, and under no uncertain terms that his dog would not live through another such incident. Said dog has not returned. I'm pretty sure the neighbor knows we mean it. I don't know about anyone else, but i'm not going to stick my hand in front of a pit bull who's attacking my chickens to see if i can calm her down and take her home, and i shouldn't be expected to. Her presence plus her actions makes her a threat. If i don't protect what's mine, i might as well feed my chickens to the neighborhood dogs and get it over with.

 

[fancbrd4me02]

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I think we're talking about dogs who are killing our chickens here, not just random dogs that happen to take a step over our property lines.

And also in response to another comment you made on this thread, i just want to say that i don't think anyone here is trying to make enemies of their neighbors either. But if (and i can only truly speak for myself) a dog - any dog - is in the process of killing my chickens or has just killed my chickens, i have an obligation to protect what is mine. It is unnatural and inconceivable to value the life of a stranger's dog over my own pets or livestock. I'm certainly not going to wait for animal control to show up and see if this dog will kill some more.

Speaking from experience, and i am one who will kill any animal that hurts my animals. Our neighbor's pit bull got loose and was chasing our chickens. We did not kill her. However, my neighbor learned, immediately, and under no uncertain terms that his dog would not live through another such incident. Said dog has not returned. I'm pretty sure the neighbor knows we mean it. I don't know about anyone else, but i'm not going to stick my hand in front of a pit bull who's attacking my chickens to see if i can calm her down and take her home, and i shouldn't be expected to. Her presence plus her actions makes her a threat. If i don't protect what's mine, i might as well feed my chickens to the neighborhood dogs and get it over with.

This thread started out about someone who shot a dog, and since then, some have said they will shoot any dog (chicken killing or not) that they see on thier prop or near thier animals. Even if they just think or suspect a threat. I am just pointing out that life is not black and white and shooting every dog you see is not just or neccesary. I also think the everyone would be better off if they tried communicating with each other before escalating things to this level when possible.