Strike III Natural Poultry Pellets - for worming?

[Midnightman14]

Well all natural is better in my opinion for my flock..

That's the naturalism fallacy. Give your birds the care they deserve not what a google article or a blog post from The Chicken Chick says.

 

[KsKingBee]

Actually thats not exactly true. ACV with the Mother in it can be useful in treating or preventing Canker. It can be used to help maintain gut health ( not a dewormer) and is a source of probiotics. I have never heard of using Cayenne pepper either.

Cayenne pepper is said to be a natural dewormer and will help warm a bird through cold nights. I am a skeptic on the pepper but I do use the ACV w/mother for a quick ferment when making a mash. The birds really are attracted to the mash more when I use the ACV.

 

[KsKingBee]

Well all natural is better in my opinion for my flock..

If you are not going to use effective chemicals to deworm then you must be prepared to lose some birds. Of course, there are exceptions to every rule but those that do not treat effectively will have more losses.

 

[chicknmania]

No it isn't and nk it's the opposite ACV is not a probiotic and can cause gastrointestinal distress. "Natural" remedies don't work and i wish i had known as much before social media interest groups became a thing. Would have saved alot of heartache and dead birds. As such i will never call them anything but quackery pushed by backyard chicken breeders.

?? As a matter of fact i was advised by a Veterinarian to try A C V in treating canker and I did find it was helpful.The "Mother" in unfiltered Apple Cider Vinegar is a probiotic mixture and yes, probiotics support gut health in all animals including poultry.

 

[chicknmania]

Cayenne pepper is said to be a natural dewormer and will help warm a bird through cold nights. I am a skeptic on the pepper but I do use the ACV w/mother for a quick ferment when making a mash. The birds really are attracted to the mash more when I use the ACV.

I do the same. ACV speeds up tje fermentation process and i agree they seem to like it better.

 

[Midnightman14]

?? As a matter of fact i was advised by a Veterinarian to try A C V in treating canker and I did find it was helpful.The "Mother" in unfiltered Apple Cider Vinegar is a probiotic mixture and yes, probiotics support gut health in all animals including poultry.

I guarantee you weren't or they weren't versed in avian physiology. Treat canker with REAL medicine. You owe it to your animals to give them medical care that works not what's trendy.

 

[chicknmania]

We've had chickens for a couple of decades and I've seen plenty of interesting things using ACV. As has been said many times in this thread, I don't think anyone has suggested that natural remedies replace "real medicine" in cures of whatever, or in deworming. I guess I should have said that in the last instance of canker, I used ACV in the hen's water until I could get a fresh supply of Metronidazole, as I only had old stuff, and that the ACV was suggested as an interim. It did help. Since we weren't talking about canker, I really didn't feel the need for all that detail, but there it is. As has been said repeatedly in here, use of natural products should not be relied on as an efficient dewormer in cases of worm infestation. However, I believe that natural products often have a place in maintaining normal health, and will continue to believe that, based on observations within our flock. We deworm our flock twice a year using broad spectrum commercial dewormers, and always have done. Nothing else will kill Capillary worms, which are common, and can quickly kill poultry.

 

[Kanekoded]

I have heard that a more natural and organic way to worm your peahens is to use Strike III natural poultry pellets by durvet. Apparently it is not advertised as a wormer but rather as a food additive for chickens. But word has it that the ingredients are effective as a wormer for poultry, ie., pumpkin seed, oregano and garlic. Any opinions out there?

While pumpkin seeds, carrots, cucumber, papaya, cabbage, garlic, acv, oregano, thyme, hot peppers (and/or cayenne), flax seed, clove, turmeric, ginger, coconut, DE, etc. are used as natural preventatives there are two that can be combined and used as a natural de-wormer effective against almost every type of internal parasite - flax seed and clove.

The recipe:

Grind 1 tbsp of cloves and 10 tbsp of flax seed into a fine powder (I use a coffee grinder).
Combine 1.5 tsp of the powder with 1.5 quarts of feed - mix well.
Feed to your birds for 1 week. Then take a break for 1 week. Then resume for 1 week. (Make sure they're eating it by giving no other options.)
Repeat the process every 3 months.

Please don't ever fear trying some of the old-tricks of the trade. Back before manufactured drugs and pesticides farmers were successful at ridding parasites in/on birds using a plethora of different techniques and natural home remedies.

 

[Midnightman14]

We've had chickens for a couple of decades and I've seen plenty of interesting things using ACV. As has been said many times in this thread, I don't think anyone has suggested that natural remedies replace "real medicine" in cures of whatever, or in deworming. I guess I should have said that in the last instance of canker, I used ACV in the hen's water until I could get a fresh supply of Metronidazole, as I only had old stuff, and that the ACV was suggested as an interim. It did help. Since we weren't talking about canker, I really didn't feel the need for all that detail, but there it is. As has been said repeatedly in here, use of natural products should not be relied on as an efficient dewormer in cases of worm infestation. However, I believe that natural products often have a place in maintaining normal health, and will continue to believe that, based on observations within our flock. We deworm our flock twice a year using broad spectrum commercial dewormers, and always have done. Nothing else will kill Capillary worms, which are common, and can quickly kill poultry.

While pumpkin seeds, carrots, cucumber, papaya, cabbage, garlic, acv, oregano, thyme, hot peppers (and/or cayenne), flax seed, clove, turmeric, ginger, coconut, DE, etc. are used as natural preventatives there are two that can be combined and used as a natural de-wormer effective against almost every type of internal parasite - flax seed and clove.

The recipe:

Grind 1 tbsp of cloves and 10 tbsp of flax seed into a fine powder (I use a coffee grinder).
Combine 1.5 tsp of the powder with 1.5 quarts of feed - mix well.
Feed to your birds for 1 week. Then take a break for 1 week. Then resume for 1 week. (Make sure they're eating it by giving no other options.)
Repeat the process every 3 months.

Please don't ever fear trying some of the old-tricks of the trade. Back before manufactured drugs and pesticides farmers were successful at ridding parasites in/on birds using a plethora of different techniques and natural home remedies.

That is totally false and bad advice. They were not "successful" it's just the fact that 2000+ years of domestication have made chickens so bullet proof that they can handle alot of abuse and can recover from very serious injuries/sicknesses with minimal help. Peafowl are not like that. They are delicate and if you mess up by not treating or preventing properly they tend to just drop before you even know anything is wrong. That's why REAL medicine is what should be used unless you have hundreds of dollars to spend replacing dead birds.

 

[Kanekoded]

That is totally false and bad advice. They were not "successful" it's just the fact that 2000+ years of domestication have made chickens so bullet proof that they can handle alot of abuse and can recover from very serious injuries/sicknesses with minimal help. Peafowl are not like that. They are delicate and if you mess up by not treating or preventing properly they tend to just drop before you even know anything is wrong. That's why REAL medicine is what should be used unless you have hundreds of dollars to spend replacing dead birds.

Gee, the peacock is probably the oldest ornamental bird in history. How on earth do you think it made it this far without becoming extinct? I highly doubt that traditional Chinese medicine throughout the ages included Ivermectin.

How about we simply agree to disagree?