Strike III Natural Poultry Pellets - for worming?

[Midnightman14]

Gee, the peacock is probably the oldest ornamental bird in history. How on earth do you think it made it this far without becoming extinct? I highly doubt that traditional Chinese medicine throughout the ages included Ivermectin.

How about we simply agree to disagree?

Ornamental does not equate to domesticated. They are still only considered semi-domesticated. Traditional chinese medicine has never worked (rhino horn is not an aphrodesiac). The truth is alot of birds died. I'm not going to validate bad information by agreeing to disagree. Bad advice is bad advice.

 

[KsKingBee]

There is a big difference between free-range peas and penned peas. Birds that are free are not entrapped on old soil that has been used for years accumulating high concentrations of cocci and worms. My free-range birds do not get regular deworming and rarely come down sick. All of my penned birds get regular deworming with one of the white dewormers a minimum of twice yearly. While there may be some benefit to using 'natural' remedies I could never trust it on any of my very expensive breeders without running a fecal exam on them afterward.

 

[Kanekoded]

Ornamental does not equate to domesticated. They are still only considered semi-domesticated. Traditional chinese medicine has never worked (rhino horn is not an aphrodesiac). The truth is alot of birds died. I'm not going to validate bad information by agreeing to disagree. Bad advice is bad advice.

"Agree to disagree" simply means I'm not going to argue with you. I know what works for me.

 

[KsKingBee]

Just picked these up and going back for more Monday. They say there is some natural benefits in feeding to birds and I think there is, the birds look great. Perhaps the extra carotenoids are helping the feather structure.

 

[chicknmania]

Gee, the peacock is probably the oldest ornamental bird in history. How on earth do you think it made it this far without becoming extinct? I highly doubt that traditional Chinese medicine throughout the ages included Ivermectin.

How about we simply agree to disagree?

Amen to that!!

 

[chicknmania]

That's the naturalism fallacy. Give your birds the care they deserve not what a google article or a blog post from The Chicken Chick says.

I'm just curious what makes you an expert over everyone else who has had years of experience in keeping and/ or breeding poultry?. You are being incredibly closed minded, or maybe just having fun arguing, idk. Are you a veterinarian? A professor of avian science or something? Do you really think avian veterinary medicine is that hard and fast, an exact science that can be treated only with commercial medication? Honestly, I don't know one veterinarian who has had any more experience or success in treating poultry than the average backyard flock owner, (and I have consulted various veterinarians a few times) so yeah, I don't have much confidence in them either. Poultry veterinary medicine is a whole new field that has never ever been explored prior to poultry becoming the latest fad in pets and back yard self sustaining hobbies. I do agree that natural remedies don't eradicate worms. But if someone wants to use natural products in their flock, there's nothing wrong with it and it may be beneficial in some ways. In my experience, once a chicken or peafowl gets sick, they are usually very difficult to cure. Unless they just have worms or coccidiosis, and even then....

 

[Midnightman14]

I'm just curious what makes you an expert over everyone else who has had years of experience in keeping and/ or breeding poultry?. You are being incredibly closed minded, or maybe just having fun arguing, idk. Are you a veterinarian? A professor of avian science or something? Do you really think avian veterinary medicine is that hard and fast, an exact science that can be treated only with commercial medication? Honestly, I don't know one veterinarian who has had any more experience or success in treating poultry than the average backyard flock owner, (and I have consulted various veterinarians a few times) so yeah, I don't have much confidence in them either. Poultry veterinary medicine is a whole new field that has never ever been explored prior to poultry becoming the latest fad in pets and back yard self sustaining hobbies. I do agree that natural remedies don't eradicate worms. But if someone wants to use natural products in their flock, there's nothing wrong with it and it may be beneficial in some ways. In my experience, once a chicken or peafowl gets sick, they are usually very difficult to cure. Unless they just have worms or coccidiosis, and even then....

I'm not an expert "over" anyone i just call bad information and bad adbice like it is. My sources of information are from cornell and uw veterinary clinic which are two of the most prestigious research institutions in the US for avian physiology/health. "Close minded" is just a smokescreen term used to try and validate bad advice. I trust the science which has been well established not whatever is trendy or based on silly old wives tales.

 

[Midnightman14]

"Agree to disagree" simply means I'm not going to argue with you. I know what works for me.

Except it doesn't work. If you want to give your birds pumpkin seeds and let their systems get overwhelmed by worms that's your choice but as sooon as you tote it to others as being any kind of preventative/cure that's when you are part of the problem.