Sulmtalers Thread

[Chickielady]

Anyways.............I wanted to post the above for educational reasons, not to appear a smarty pants..................

I used to call the Sulmtalers I have "Silver Duckwing" and Golden Duckwing" but was swiftly corrected by the chicken authorities !

I still do not understand why everyone wants so badly for their birds to be Duckwings...other than the fact that the name is SO COOL !!!!!!!

I wish they were duckwings.....the duckwing hen is absolutely gorgeous !

But my wheatens are awesome too...............but they are not duckwing coloration.

 

[cluckandcrow]

Always count the first day you put the eggs in the incubator as day 1 with any eggs. Sulmtalers take 21 days. I have been hatching them for years.

 

[Chickielady]

pics from yesterday


Silver Wheaten pullet...young and muddy !


She is my favorite little spoiled baby... everyone picks on her & she knows I will protect her.....


TOP you see red wheaten hens, bottom you see the silver wheaten young pullet


She is awesome !
Spoiled little silver girl !



Notice her dark tail, she is still a wheaten, she is just a silver wheaten.




Daddy & the red wheaten hens...daddy is a silver wheaten cock..2 yrs old.

OH and a photo bomb of a cuckoo girl......................LOL

 

[Scampb7574]

They do not cross, you get one or the other, kinda like Labradors... There is no such thing as a duckwing Sulmtaler.....if you study the females in each case you will see that they are indeed, Wheaten...colored body, dark tail. Looking at the males of the chicken world, the black breasted red, the partridge and the wheaten males all look the same. Incidently, the Duckwing and the wheaten males also look alot alike........... But that is where it stops. ALL those coloration's females are different... Here is photos: RED WHEATEN COCKEREL SULMTALER: RED WHEATEN HEN SULMTALER: SILVER WHEATEN COCKEREL SULMTALER: HEN REAR END at the top is a SILVER WHEATEN HEN, the bottom is a RED WHEATEN HEN SULMTALER, notice one hen is silvery white-ish, one is orangey-tannish ? BOTH HAVE BLACK TAILS.................WHICH IS 100% WHEATEN characteristics. THIS is a hen PARTRIDGE, notice her coloration & pattern....(she has a saddle on) This is her full brother, a PARTRIDGE Chantecler.........now if you flip up & down you will notice that the RED WHEATEN SULMTALER & the PARTRIDGE CHANTECLER and about the same coloration, BUT their females are the Phenotype which differs. Yup, even the Partridge Chantecler looks like it has a duck wing on its wing! THAT is not what makes a duck wing pattern. Here is another...Black Breasted Red Game.............NOTICE the female...the males all look the same, it is the females who have the characteristics of the color pattern...yet the male Black breasted red looks like the Red Wheaten Sulmtaler AND the Partridge Chantecler...............and the photo below are not my birds.........the rest are.

These are WHEATEN MARANS: Once again notice the male is a black breasted red bird and the hen is colored the same as the Wheaten Sulmtaler.

THIS is a SILVER DUCKWING Wellsummer Cockerel: How do we know ? Cuz we look at his female counterpart, who shows the phenotype.

THESE are SILVER DUCKWING WELLSUMMER HENS:

They are gorgeous.....and notice the FEMALE is the one who states what coloration the chicken is....not the male. And thanks to @fakokoWV as these 2 photos of SILVER DUCKWING birds are hers.and they are awesome ! I love their salmon breast. Now, when your Sulmtaler hen looks like these SILVER DUCKWING hens, then you will have silver duckwing sulmtalers. But so far, all Sulmtalers are Wheaten. Red Wheaten or Silver Wheaten...............but Wheaten all the same. OK...off my soap box...but just telling so many people over & over...and GFF farms web site is wrong ! They are Wheatens and Silver Wheatens, not duckwing, or the hens would be duckwing like these beauties above.

Oops! Replied wrong! Anyway thank you for clarifying that! I have a Red Wheaton Cockerel and 2 Red Wheaton Pullets that I purchased from GFF in October. My intention was to breed, but have since then changed my mind. I am trying to sell them as a trio and needed clarification on this myself for labeling.

 

[Sylvester017]

Chickielady and Scamp -- your Sulm's are gorgeous gorgeous gorgeous!

 

[MontainBourbons]

Hello, I have been having soem trouble lately with hatching my sulmtalers. I use a sportsman GQF incubator and hatcher but I can't seem to get it right. During incubation the temperature is around 99.8 degrees and humidity is about 30%. And during the hatch the temp is 98.5-99.0, and the humidity is at at least 55% for the last two days. They hatch on day 22.
I just got a poor hatch of 2/13. The two that did make it seem perfectly healthy. All of the others were fully developed but didn't hatch. At the same time I got 8/12 on a bantam hatch.
Please give me some tips about how you incubate your sulmatlers. I really want to get a good size flock this year.

 

[cluckandcrow]

Sulmtlaers take 21 days to hatch. If I put my Sulmtalers in the Sportsman incubator that I have at 6:00 PM today. I count today as day 1(humidity is 50-55). So today is 05/15/2017 and day 1, 05/16/2017 is day 2, 05/17/2017 is day 3 and so on. On 04/01/2017 which is day 18 I take the eggs out of the rotator and place them on their sides at 6:00 PM. on the bottom of the plastic tray with non slip paper(very important or chicks will get spray leg). I also raise the Humidity to 65-80 for hatching by placing the white humidity pads in the white slots of the water tray that sits in front of the fans. On day 21 at 6:00 PM on 04/04/2017 the chicks will start piping and zipping to get out. On day 22 at 6:00 PM Almost all of the chicks are out of the shell. However you may have a few that take longer. I hope this helps. Your humidity is way too low. Chicks are probably getting stuck in the shell on the last day.

 

[MontainBourbons]

Sulmtlaers take 21 days to hatch. If I put my Sulmtalers in the Sportsman incubator that I have at 6:00 PM today. I count today as day 1(humidity is 50-55). So today is 05/15/2017 and day 1, 05/16/2017 is day 2, 05/17/2017 is day 3 and so on. On 04/01/2017 which is day 18 I take the eggs out of the rotator and place them on their sides at 6:00 PM. on the bottom of the plastic tray with non slip paper(very important or chicks will get spray leg). I also raise the Humidity to 65-80 for hatching by placing the white humidity pads in the white slots of the water tray that sits in front of the fans. On day 21 at 6:00 PM on 04/04/2017 the chicks will start piping and zipping to get out. On day 22 at 6:00 PM Almost all of the chicks are out of the shell. However you may have a few that take longer. I hope this helps. Your humidity is way too low. Chicks are probably getting stuck in the shell on the last day.

Well the chicks don't even pip internally so could humidity still be a problem? The ones that do hatch have no problem getting out. It is impossible to get mine up to 65-80% best is 55%.

 

[cutipatooti]

Is it just me or are the males of this breed slower growing then the females? Especially the silver Wheaton.

 

[GabrielBane]

I've had the opposite observation, our females are such slow developers in comparison with the cockerels.