Oh, I found some old pictures of I think just before they were a year old, 6 months to a year, and they are 2 now. Their hackles have lightened some now, and more of the orange-y color, but they were that super dark mahogany at first. they are gorgeous, they came from good breeding stock. They were out of birds purchased from Foley. Not Foley bred, but someone else bred Foley's together lol.